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To: narses; Cronos
http://www.bible.ca/cr-Unitarian-universalist.htm

Without to regard to the fact that these Principles and Purposes of the Unitarian Universalist Association are not a Creed, there is nothing contained therein that supports the drivel that Cronos has been posting.
1,467 posted on 09/05/2010 3:23:54 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: OLD REGGIE; Cronos

Really? So you ARE a Trinitarian? You DO have a CREED? Please illuminate the thread.


1,471 posted on 09/05/2010 3:32:40 PM PDT by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: OLD REGGIE
Oh, so a UNitarian like you thinks that the UNitarian website posts drivel like:
"Some Unitarian Universalists are nontheists and do not find language about God useful. The faith of other Unitarian Universalists in God may be profound, though among these, too, talk of God may be restrained. Why? The word God is much abused. Far too often, the word seems to refer to a kind of granddaddy in the sky or a super magician. To avoid confusion, many Unitarian Universalists are more apt to speak of "reverence for life" (in the words of Albert Schweitzer, a Unitarian), the spirit of love or truth, the holy, or the gracious. Many also prefer such language because it is inclusive; it is used with integrity by theist and nontheist members. Whatever our theological persuasion, Unitarian Universalists generally agree that the fruits of religious belief matter more than beliefs about religion-even about God. So we usually speak more of the fruits: gratitude for blessings, worthy aspirations, the renewal of hope, and service on behalf of justice."
And The Unitarian Universalist website states (uua.org):
"We do not, however, hold the Bible-or any other account of human experience-to be either an infallible guide or the exclusive source of truth. Much biblical material is mythical or legendary. Not that it should be discarded for that reason! Rather, it should be treasured for what it is. We believe that we should read the Bible as we read other books (or the newspaper) - with imagination and a critical eye."
Why do you as a unitarian think this is drivel? Why do you think there is no truth to the Trinity? And why do unitarians deny the divinity of Christ?
1,472 posted on 09/05/2010 3:33:11 PM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Allah": Satan's current status)
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To: OLD REGGIE

What exactly is your creed that you ask us to post?


1,473 posted on 09/05/2010 3:34:41 PM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Allah": Satan's current status)
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To: OLD REGGIE
What exactly is your creed that you ask us to post?

does it contain
We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,
the only Son of God,
eternally begotten of the Father,
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made,
one in Being with the Father.
Through him all things were made.
For us men and for our salvation
he came down from heaven
by the power of the Holy Spirit
he was born of the Virgin Mary, and became man.
?

1,474 posted on 09/05/2010 3:36:36 PM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Allah": Satan's current status)
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To: OLD REGGIE
What exactly is your creed that you ask us to post?

does it contain
we worship one God in Trinity,
and Trinity in Unity;
Neither confounding the Persons; nor dividing the Essence.
For there is one Person of the Father; another of the Son; and another of the Holy Ghost.
But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, is all one;
the Glory equal, the Majesty coeternal.
Such as the Father is; such is the Son; and such is the Holy Ghost.
The Father uncreated; the Son uncreated; and the Holy Ghost uncreated.
The Father unlimited; the Son unlimited; and the Holy Ghost unlimited.
The Father eternal; the Son eternal; and the Holy Ghost eternal.
And yet they are not three eternals; but one eternal.
As also there are not three uncreated; nor three infinites, but one uncreated; and one infinite.
So likewise the Father is Almighty; the Son Almighty;
and the Holy Ghost Almighty.
And yet they are not three Almighties; but one Almighty.
So the Father is God; the Son is God; and the Holy Ghost is God.
And yet they are not three Gods; but one God.
So likewise the Father is Lord; the Son Lord; and the Holy Ghost Lord.
And yet not three Lords; but one Lord.
For like as we are compelled by the Christian verity; to acknowledge every Person by himself to be God and Lord;
So are we forbidden by the Catholic Religion; to say, There are three Gods, or three Lords.
The Father is made of none; neither created, nor begotten.
The Son is of the Father alone; not made, nor created; but begotten.
The Holy Ghost is of the Father and of the Son; neither made, nor created, nor begotten; but proceeding.
So there is one Father, not three Fathers; one Son, not three Sons; one Holy Ghost, not three Holy Ghosts.
And in this Trinity none is before, or after another; none is greater, or less than another.
But the whole three Persons are coeternal, and coequal.
So that in all things, as aforesaid; the Unity in Trinity, and the Trinity in Unity, is to be worshipped.
He therefore that will be saved, let him thus think of the Trinity.

1,476 posted on 09/05/2010 3:39:22 PM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Allah": Satan's current status)
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To: OLD REGGIE

What exactly is your creed that you ask us to post? Or is it simply “dduuuuuh.... anti-Church....” So thereby being just a study in negativity. It sure seems that way. Since you as a Unitarian would deny the TRinity.


1,477 posted on 09/05/2010 3:40:30 PM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Allah": Satan's current status)
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