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To: Lera
Make all the excuses you want . The fact is that you can’t really spin this around as not being official church doctrine.

Ah. It's been a while since I saw such a blatant 'shoot and move". Your original argument was against papal infallibility. Now it's about whether this is "official church doctrine." May I take the change of subject as an admission that your argument about papal infallibility was a lousy one?

Preferring victory to truth is a waste of time, IMHO.

As to "their book" saying this or that, I have heard plenty of Jews saying that the duty to "turn the other cheek" was not a duty for them. So how much of a disagreement leads to certainty that they worship a different god?

In a related argument, lots of non-Catholics here seem to suggest, if not state outright, that we Catholics worship a different god.

I don't think there is more than one God, myself. I think people can have very wrong ideas about Him. I think it at least possible that rather than worship a different God, they worship the same God very badly and think about him even more badly. Muslims say the god they worship is merciful and compassionate. They may have lousy ideas about what that means in their daily lives, but I will agree with them and even say that God is more merciful and compassionate than they know.

1,159 posted on 09/02/2010 3:39:31 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg

Well when the Pope makes something like the Nostra Aetate official doctrine it shows that he has trouble distinguishing what other groups worship.

So that means either the pope who made this doctrine and the church members that proposed this can not discern evil when he/they see it or he/they do worship the same beast as the muslims do.

That makes him either falliable at discernment or just as evil as the muslims.

Please don’t start making excuses that the muslims worship the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob just in the wrong way.
The God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob does not play dirty tricks on people to get them to murder others .

The God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob does not write two exact opposite books and the koran is the exact opposite of the Bible . Every thing that is Holy in the Bible is considered a blasphemy in the koran , everything that is holy in the koran is a BLASPHEMY in the Bible.

Again I say the God of Abraham , Issac and Jacob is no deceiver and he does not play dirty tricks on me to get them to sin and do evil .

Jas 1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:


1,209 posted on 09/02/2010 11:44:45 PM PDT by Lera
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