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To: 1000 silverlings; Judith Anne

Actually, no, the most growth is to traditionalist, orthodox groups within the Church. And we’ve been there before when The Church was threatened — right from Nero’s persecutions, to the attacks by the Muslims when they conquered Spain and Italy and Anatolia and threatened to control Europe, we’ve been there at the battle of Lepanto and the Seige of Vienna, we’ve been there when Lutheranism and Calvinism threatened to overrun the Christian world. And yet, the Church survived all of this and thrived, THANKS TO GOD’s Grace. And we will survive while your heresy dies out — remember that your own particular grouping is a sub-grouping of some other sub-grouping that had a half-life of a few decades to less than a hundred years. it will die out as it is planted on stone, not in the rich soil that is God’s grace, not permanent like Christ’s Church, the One Holy Apostolic Catholic Church. We’ve survived 2000 years and will survive past you, thank you


10,208 posted on 10/11/2010 10:38:49 AM PDT by Cronos (Ojciec i Syn i Duch Swiety)
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To: Cronos
well it remains to be seen, now doesn't it? Just looking around the net, there are an awful lot of them all over the place. It appears that they are forming independent churches, setting up their own clergy, who can be married, and giving lip service, now, to Rome.

Old traditional Catholicism is dying. I wondered why I was seeing those big old traditional churches all across the country being sold off.

At any rate, back to my questions: which of them are correct? After all there's only one church, right? Not 140 million. Is all that prophesying and speaking in tongues real? They feel a freedom to interpret scripture themselves, claiming that they have the gift of the HS. Are they right?

10,217 posted on 10/11/2010 10:46:45 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Cronos

why is the church threatened? so you agree it is then. The popes approved of the Pentecostal movement, so were they wrong? Don’t they have the gift of the HS? They are supposed to be the HS on earth, as the Vicar of Christ.


10,220 posted on 10/11/2010 10:51:00 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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