We can appreciaqte the Christianity on display in Calvinist Art. 
Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
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Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
Just wondering which picture is the real Mary ? Do you know?
It could be, God knows your heart..
However.. what if I sent you a picture of MY husband? Or one of my sons.. would you put that in your wallet and call it your husband? Would you kiss it on your anniversary?
crescent moon? or the horns of Babylon?
Is a photo an idol?
It makes a difference that the first and second commandments are not placed as the originals were. The original 10 were written on 2 tablets, number one opposite number 6, and so on. Each commandment and its opposite relect a deeper truth than just the one by itself.
Got a scripture for that?
Any thing can be an idol ...Would you put a picture of my husband in your wallet and show it to others and identify it as your husband ? Would you kiss it on your anniversary ?
sure, read the story in the bible, google Moses
We can appreciaqte the Christianity on display in Calvinist Art.
That picture is an honor to any reformed believer.. knocking down idols is obedience to God.. erecting them is not
However sharp the sword of the spirit is I don't really it to make a scratch on the hard polished obtuseness displayed on the meaning of “person/presence”.
If *you* do so, do you mistake the photo for your husband?
Any thing can be an idol
What, would you say, is the difference between an idol and an icon?
Unfortunately that is true. Obviously not an isolated incident murder, vandalism, trespassing, destruction of private property, assault, battery, and obvious violations of the fire code are all Protestant virtues. How very beatific.
Luke 19:45-46 Then he entered the temple area and began driving out those who were selling. "It is written," he said to them, " 'My house will be a house of prayer'; but you have made it 'a den of robbers.'"
Mark 11: 15-17 On reaching Jerusalem, Jesus entered the temple area and began driving out those who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves, and would not allow anyone to carry merchandise through the temple courts. And as he taught them, he said, "Is it not written: " 'My house will be called a house of prayer for all nations'? But you have made it 'a den of robbers.'"
Seems that even Jesus isn't good enough for some people.....
Naw.. no candles,no kneelers, no flowers..in fact most Calvinists do not even own the picture.. not an icon or an idol.. just a historic portrait
Why would you criticize Protestants for following Catholic tradition?
The Inquisition is what they came out of. Sometimes it takes time to unlearn bad habits.
Catholics are in no position to throw stones.
Ah, the idol is in the candles..
This is so silly. I can’t imagine anyone really believing this.
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