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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

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Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)


TOPICS: Activism; Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
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To: Cronos
Was just listening to Offspring again!

Is that a musical group or are you talking about your young'uns?

9,701 posted on 10/08/2010 9:26:05 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: Natural Law; Dr. Eckleburg

It is a Protestant thing, at least for some, (I would exclude many Lutherans and Anglicans at the least), to not know the difference between an idol and an icon.


9,702 posted on 10/08/2010 9:30:52 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Natural Law
Basil and Aquinas were wrong. It's a pathetic deflection to say "we're not really praying to the image or the statue, but to the person behind those images and statues."

God knows the dishonesty in men's hearts and their natural leaning toward superstition and idolatry. Therefore the RCC's blasphemy is twofold. They bow down to images and they pray to dead people, not to God alone. Images and dead men become idols.

God alone hears and answers men's prayers. He alone is worthy to receive our prayers. The second commandment reveals Rome's error.

This is so basic that it just goes to show how blinded RCs have become.

"Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God"

God isn't saying never to paint a picture. He's saying not to bow down to the picture or worship the picture it as if it or the person represented in the picture were God.

It's not.

It's pagan. You don't need it.

9,703 posted on 10/08/2010 9:45:07 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: D-fendr

I’m content to obey the second commandment of God, and I pity those who aren’t.


9,704 posted on 10/08/2010 9:47:08 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: D-fendr
It is a Protestant thing

lol. No, it's a Bible thing. A disobedience thing. An idolatry thing.

A thing to stay far away from. Hence, my God-given discomfort at the majority of your artwork which elevates Mary to a position of honor above Jesus Christ.

Flee from it.

9,705 posted on 10/08/2010 9:51:19 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"Basil and Aquinas were wrong."

Another in a long line of worthless opinions.

9,706 posted on 10/08/2010 9:52:40 PM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
An idolatry thing.

Illustrating my point.

You really don't know the difference.

9,707 posted on 10/08/2010 9:53:26 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
If paintings of Mary discomfort you, you shouldn't have posted them. If paintings of Mary and Jesus force you into idolatry, then by all means, flee from it.

Others not so fragile can enjoy and admire them.

9,708 posted on 10/08/2010 9:58:59 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr
Reading the mind of another Freeper is a form of "making it personal."

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

9,709 posted on 10/08/2010 9:59:22 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator

Sorry, I thought I was making an obvious observation of a post which conflated the two terms. I’ll try to be more artful in doing so.


9,711 posted on 10/08/2010 10:04:31 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Let's try this again:

God knows the dishonesty in men's hearts and their natural leaning toward superstition and idolatry.

But we don't, except for our own. We can, however, project our own fear and weakness onto others.

9,712 posted on 10/08/2010 10:09:02 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: RnMomof7; Running On Empty
No one is saved until the gospel is presented and they repent and believe

If they are predestined to be saved, that will happen. Why would you have to be concerned for their soul?

9,713 posted on 10/09/2010 1:38:11 AM PDT by Al Hitan
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To: Al Hitan

That is the $64,000 question.


9,714 posted on 10/09/2010 6:28:20 AM PDT by Jaded (Lucifer is at work and they don't even know it.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
I’m content to obey the second commandment of God, and I pity those who aren’t.

The RCC removed the 2cnd commandment from their list of 10.

To keep the list to 10, they split the coveting commandment into 2.

9,715 posted on 10/09/2010 6:59:48 AM PDT by bkaycee
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To: D-fendr
That picture is about Jesus not Mary

Whether one likes it or not all the icons or statues are idols. No one knows what Mary actually looked like or Jesus actually looked like so they are pictures that come from the imagination of men.. they are not like carrying a picture of a loved one..they are false Gods.

9,716 posted on 10/09/2010 7:15:30 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Al Hitan
If they are predestined to be saved, that will happen. Why would you have to be concerned for their soul?

God predestined Judas and his betrayal and the cross and yet it still had to occur.

9,717 posted on 10/09/2010 7:17:42 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Judith Anne
I think it stems from the Roman Catholic view that sex is bad or dirty and Mary MUST have abstained.

Is that the Reformed version of the Big Lie? Do the Reformed think that if they repeat it often enough, some idiot will fall for it?

The scripture says that Joseph "but kept her a virgin until she gave birth to a Son; and he called His name Jesus."

The scripture also repeatedly mentions the brothers and sisters of Jesus.

There is no hint in scripture that Mary was a perpetual virgin, the scripture indicates otherwise, with no special reasons indicating anything to the contrary.

After the virgin birth and Mary's role having been played out, she becomes more or less another disciple certainly, not greater than the apostles and leaders of the infant church.

There is zero evidence that the apostles or anyone in the first generations of Christians believed any of the Marian doctrines.

9,718 posted on 10/09/2010 7:22:07 AM PDT by bkaycee
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To: RnMomof7; Jaded

Try answering my question.


9,719 posted on 10/09/2010 7:29:02 AM PDT by Al Hitan
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To: bkaycee
The RCC removed the 2cnd commandment from their list of 10. To keep the list to 10, they split the coveting commandment into 2.

To keep from looking so silly, you could do a bit of research before making such a stupid statement. You do understand that how you split out the Decalogue is a tradition, don't you? And what difference does it really make if it is included in number 1 or number 2?

9,720 posted on 10/09/2010 8:00:10 AM PDT by Al Hitan
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