Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
you seem to be preoccupied with young girls making vows of virginity. Well it wasn’t done in Jewish culture, one reason was that each wanted to give birth to the Messiah. Also culturally, women could not usually survive without a husband or father. And as Jews put a high value on men having children, a widow often married her husband’s brother.
Unfortunately, yes we have. We all know who has an extensive history of lying and have the posting histories to prove it, don't we.
Flee from it.
I see, so the bible we use and quote is Satanic? or the people quoting the bible are satanic? What are you getting at. Or the bible is just worthless, especially the Paul parts?
Numbers, chapter 30. It's not my problem if the words exceed the limits of YOPIOS.
Assuming such happened is counter-intuitive. It defies human nature.
Yes, I would agree that putting God before human nature is counter-intuitive, that's why the pledge is made to God so He can help.
A vow of virginity was a pagan act of a woman bonding herself to an idol, and none of them ever remained virgin; they were temple prostitutes.
Yes, and the pagans all had their virgin birth myths as well. That's how Christianity is different, with God ALL things are possible, HE is the difference.
Who was at the Last Supper?
Mark 14:
16 The disciples then went off, entered the city, and found it just as he had told them; and they prepared the Passover.
17 When it was evening, he came with the Twelve.
18 5 And as they reclined at table and were eating, Jesus said, "Amen, I say to you, one of you will betray me, one who is eating with me."
The Apostles only
She WAS at the Crucifixion when ten of the Disciples weren't.
Don't get carried away with who was where and when who was where. After all it was Mary Magdalene who Jesus first appeared to after His ressurection while Scripture remains silent concerning His mother.
NOBODY was at the Resurrection.
Scripture is silent on this subject. Scripture is also silent on Mary, his mother. Does that mean her entire story had been told?
No one is saved until the gospel is presented and they repent and believe ... and we are told to go and tell...
Roman Catholic apologists often rewrite other people's comments to say something that was never said or written.
There is no Scriptural support for Mary's continuing virginity after Christ was born; for her sinless life; for her bodily assumption into heaven; for her repeated reappearances on earth; for her "intact hymen after childbirth;" nor for her blasphemous titles of "co-mediator" and "co-redeemer."
Christ's virgin birth was documented in the Bible. It is true. Sadly, Christ's virgin birth is not sufficient for Rome. Rome requires magic to supplement the glorious supernatural truth of Christ's birth by a simple Jewish virgin and the Holy Spirit.
And magic lies.
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.." -- Rev. 22:13-15"I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
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“We all know who has an extensive history of lying and have the posting histories to prove it, don’t we”
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I have to assume that you mean yourself.
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like Reggie, I know a guy who knows someone who knows everything and he knows a guy who had a sister who actually heard this. It was in--- you guessed it! Loosiana, gator killing country! Or maybe not.
John 21:24-25
24This is the disciple who testifies to these things and who wrote them down. We know that his testimony is true.
25Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written.
Juan 21:24-25 (La Biblia de las Américas)
24Este es el discípulo que da testimonio de estas cosas y el que escribió esto, y sabemos que su testimonio es verdadero.
25Y hay también muchas otras cosas que Jesús hizo, que si se escribieran* en detalle, pienso que ni aun el mundo mismo podría* contener los libros que se escribirían*.
Jean 21:24-25 (La Bible du Semeur)
24 C’est ce même disciple qui rapporte ces faits et qui les a écrits. Nous savons que son témoignage est vrai.
25 Jésus a accompli encore bien d’autres choses. Si on voulait les raconter une à une, je pense que le monde entier ne suffirait pas pour contenir tous les livres qu’il faudrait écrire.
Johannes 21:24-25 (Svenska 1917)
24Det är den lärjungen som vittnar om detta, och som har skrivit detta; och vi veta att hans vittnesbörd är sant.
25Ännu mycket annat var det som Jesus gjorde; och om allt detta skulle uppskrivas, det ena med det andra, så tror jag att icke ens hela världen skulle kunna rymma de böcker som då bleve skrivna.
lol. Your two-word rebuttal is noted and dismissed for lack of evidence.
lol. Inbred, of course.
One must wonder about the roots of the hatred. Moral issues?
it exceeds your OPIOS though, as the Jewish commentary in my Torah so neatly explains a neder. And by the way, this is OT, the only thing generally accepted in the OT by Catholics is a verse here and there they can say is all about Mary. And as ES has stated, there is nothing in there about anybody's perpetual virginity. Your OPIOS is not even close
Well guess what, it was.
There is no Scriptural support for Mary's continuing virginity after Christ was born; for her sinless life; for her bodily assumption into heaven; for her repeated reappearances on earth; for her "intact hymen after childbirth;" nor for her blasphemous titles of "co-mediator" and "co-redeemer."
Don't confuse Scriptural support with personal beliefs. As I pointed out earlier, from the viewpoint of a Jew there is no Scriptural support for Christianity.
Now let's find a counterpart of that vow concerning Mary and Joseph. Surely that would have been considered worthy of inclusion in Scripture.
A good place to start would be for "conservative" Roman Catholics to denounce Ratzinger's "global authority" encyclical which was pure communism gussied up in the sequins and spandex of Miss America "world peace" platitudes.
well then explain why so many Jews have converted to Christianity
More than we know.
The major contradiction that you epitomize is that on one hand you state that all proof must be scriptural leaving no room for Tradition and then on the other hand you offer up the interpretations and confabulations of Calvin and Spurgeon and try to pretend that they are something other than a Reformist tradition.
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