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To: editor-surveyor; mas cerveza por favor; metmom; Jaded; Judith Anne; Legatus; maryz; NYer; ...
Show us a reference of Hebrew girls taking a vow of virginity.

Numbers, chapter 30. It's not my problem if the words exceed the limits of YOPIOS.

Assuming such happened is counter-intuitive. It defies human nature.

Yes, I would agree that putting God before human nature is counter-intuitive, that's why the pledge is made to God so He can help.

A vow of virginity was a pagan act of a woman bonding herself to an idol, and none of them ever remained virgin; they were temple prostitutes.

Yes, and the pagans all had their virgin birth myths as well. That's how Christianity is different, with God ALL things are possible, HE is the difference.

9,544 posted on 10/08/2010 11:43:09 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee; editor-surveyor; Dr. Eckleburg
Numbers, chapter 30. It's not my problem if the words exceed the limits of YOPIOS.

it exceeds your OPIOS though, as the Jewish commentary in my Torah so neatly explains a neder. And by the way, this is OT, the only thing generally accepted in the OT by Catholics is a verse here and there they can say is all about Mary. And as ES has stated, there is nothing in there about anybody's perpetual virginity. Your OPIOS is not even close

9,554 posted on 10/08/2010 11:50:21 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: wagglebee; editor-surveyor
Show us a reference of Hebrew girls taking a vow of virginity.

Numbers, chapter 30. It's not my problem if the words exceed the limits of YOPIOS.

It appears this "vow" was subject to a few exceptions doesn't it.

What Scriptural indication do you have that Mary ever made a vow of perpetual virginity, that her father approved or dissaproved, or that Joseph knew of a vow and remaind silent (signalling acceptance)?

9,608 posted on 10/08/2010 1:16:39 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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