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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]

Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)


TOPICS: Activism; Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
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To: Legatus
You had me right there with you until this line...

I'm very uncomfortable knowing that any self professed Catholic voted for that prize loon living in the white house. But on top of that (and I'm not pointing any fingers) there are some people who appear to be doing their level best to drive the rest of us right out the door.

Not sure what that means. The door of the RCC or the Republican door???

9,501 posted on 10/08/2010 10:49:31 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: 1000 silverlings
the Resurrection is the most important act in history.

AMEN! All history led up to Calvary and all future flows from Calvary.

Mary wasn’t even at the last supper. If she was going to be the new Eve and the co-redeemer, Christ would have instituted an office for her.

Great point.

9,502 posted on 10/08/2010 10:52:29 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: wagglebee; Dr. Eckleburg
but it was also practiced among some Jews

Where is this found,

9,503 posted on 10/08/2010 10:53:44 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Natural Law; RnMomof7
Actually the Vatican has put out three dozen works on the subject. All can be found on the Vatican website under the Pontifical Biblical Commission:

And not one of them is OFFICIAL "infallible" Catholic teaching.

9,504 posted on 10/08/2010 10:57:09 AM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: 1000 silverlings; Jaded; Judith Anne; Legatus; maryz; NYer; Salvation; Pyro7480; Coleus; narses; ...
Exactly, the Resurrection is the most important act in history. Mary wasn’t even at the last supper.

Where does the Bible say this?

She WAS at the Crucifixion when ten of the Disciples weren't.

NOBODY was at the Resurrection.

9,505 posted on 10/08/2010 10:57:09 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
Happy to clarify.

It is paganism to believe Mary was born sinless, lived a sinless life and died sinless. It is paganism to believe Mary was bodily assumed into heaven. It is paganism to believe Mary is a "co-redeemer" or "co-mediator" or "queen of heaven," and a thousand other blasphemous titles Rome gives to a simple Jewish girl who was blessed by God to carry the Christ child to term.

It is also paganism to insist that Mary had to remain a virgin for her entire life and thus make a mockery of her marriage vows before God.

We still call Jimmy Carter "President Carter," but that does not mean he is still the President. Same with "the virgin Mary."

9,506 posted on 10/08/2010 10:58:15 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: wagglebee; Dr. Eckleburg

Busted. Dr. Eckleburg tried to pass off the virgin birth as “magic.”


9,507 posted on 10/08/2010 10:58:53 AM PDT by mas cerveza por favor
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To: wagglebee; Dr. Eckleburg

Catholic theology:1) the bible doesn’t mention it, so it could had happened:2) assume it did, and run with it


9,508 posted on 10/08/2010 10:59:08 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: wagglebee
And all this blasphemous claptrap concerning Mary literally detracts from the miracle of the virgin birth of Christ.

Rome misdirects all the attention and accolades to the vessel rather than to the miracle which the vessel was carrying.

9,509 posted on 10/08/2010 11:01:33 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Quix
"I don't see Proddys like that hereon. I do see some RC's like that.

How can you keep a straight face when saying something as ridiculous?

9,510 posted on 10/08/2010 11:01:48 AM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
It is also paganism to insist that Mary had to remain a virgin for her entire life and thus make a mockery of her marriage vows before God.

Everything you don't like is "pagan" for you. However, you represented Catholic teaching on Mary's virginity as magic.

Would you care to take that back?

9,511 posted on 10/08/2010 11:03:04 AM PDT by mas cerveza por favor
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To: 1000 silverlings; Jaded; Judith Anne; Legatus; maryz; NYer; Salvation; Pyro7480; Coleus; narses; ...
Where is this found,

What vows of chastity among Jews? They can be found right here (just a warning, you might not like it because it speaks DIRECTLY about vows continuing EVEN DURING MARRIAGE):

Numbers, Chapter 30

[1] And Moses told the children of Israel all that the Lord had commanded him: [2] And he said to the princes of the tribes of the children of Israel: This is the word that the Lord hath commanded: [3] If any man make a vow to the Lord, or bind himself by an oath: he shall not make his word void but shall fulfill all that he promised. [4] If a woman vow any thing, and bind herself by an oath, being in her father's house, and but yet a girl in age: if her father knew the vow that she hath promised, and the oath wherewith she hath bound her soul, and held his peace, she shall be bound by the vow: [5] Whatsoever she promised and swore, she shall fulfill in deed.

[6] But if her father, immediately as soon as he heard it, gainsaid it, both her vows and her oaths shall be void, neither shall she be bound to what she promised, because her father hath gainsaid it. [7] If she have a husband, and shall vow any thing, and the word once going out of her mouth shall bind her soul by an oath: [8] The day that her husband shall hear it, and not gainsay it, she shall be bound to the vow, and shall give whatsoever she promised. [9] But if as soon as he heareth he gainsay it, and make her promises and the words wherewith she had bound her soul of no effect: the Lord will forgive her. [10] The widow, and she that is divorced, shall fulfill whatsoever they vow.

[11] If the wife in the house of her husband, hath bound herself by vow and by oath, [12] If her husband hear, and hold his peace, and doth not disallow the promise, she shall accomplish whatsoever she had promised. [13] But if forthwith he gainsay it, she shall not be bound by the promise: because her husband gainsaid it, and the Lord will be merciful to her. [14] If she vow and bind herself by oath, to afflict her soul by fasting, or abstinence from other things, it shall depend on the will of her husband, whether she shall do it, or not do it. [15] But if the husband hearing it hold his peace, and defer the declaring his mind till another day: whatsoever she had vowed and promised, she shall fulfill: because immediately as he heard it, he held his peace.

[16] But if he gainsay it after that he knew it, he shall bear her iniquity. [17] These are the laws which the Lord appointed to Moses between the husband and the wife, between the father and the daughter that is as yet but a girl in age, or that abideth in her father's house.


9,512 posted on 10/08/2010 11:04:58 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: mas cerveza por favor; Dr. Eckleburg
reading it over, she said the magic was in her remaining a virgin after the birth.
9,513 posted on 10/08/2010 11:05:51 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: mas cerveza por favor

Busted? LOL.

The “magic” Rome is selling is the blasphemous paganism which it peddles to overshadow and eclipse the true miracle of Christ’s virgin birth.

As I just wrote, this blasphemous claptrap concerning Mary literally detracts from the miracle of the virgin birth of Christ.

Rome misdirects all the attention and accolades to the vessel rather than to the miracle which the vessel was carrying.

No question this occurs because Rome does not have ears to hear or eyes to see. It has been blinded so that it does not understand the things of God.


9,514 posted on 10/08/2010 11:06:50 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; RnMomof7; editor-surveyor; 1000 silverlings; Quix; metmom; OLD REGGIE
"And why are 35 out of the 36 books/essays you provided in Latin or Italian, as shown on Vatican.va? "

I only listed 36, but there are many more available From the Pontifical Biblical Institute and the Pontifical Biblical Commission. An English translation is available if you request it.

Is your complaint is that the Church has not found a way to squeeze it into a single book?

9,515 posted on 10/08/2010 11:07:59 AM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"Among voters, 54% of Roman Catholics voted for Obama while 45% of Protestants voted for him."

The fact is that quantitatively more Protestants voted for obama than Catholics did. When you have an election in which zero Protestants vote Democrat then you can start boasting. Until then it is simply hubris.

9,516 posted on 10/08/2010 11:12:31 AM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: Legatus; MarkBsnr

If you are not now “in his hand,” then you will never be.

He saved his own 2000 years ago; he is not waiting to save more; he has said in his own words that he did not lose any that the father had given him. If he didn’t lose any, then they are all still his.

Why do you still battle this demon?


9,517 posted on 10/08/2010 11:12:36 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: Natural Law

I think it’s a good thing that we do not presume to be able to publish ‘the last word’ on the Scriptures.


9,518 posted on 10/08/2010 11:13:11 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Jaded; Judith Anne; Legatus; maryz; NYer; Salvation; Pyro7480; Coleus; narses; ...
It is paganism to believe Mary was born sinless, lived a sinless life and died sinless. It is paganism to believe Mary was bodily assumed into heaven. It is paganism to believe Mary is a "co-redeemer" or "co-mediator" or "queen of heaven," and a thousand other blasphemous titles Rome gives to a simple Jewish girl who was blessed by God to carry the Christ child to term.

Why is it "paganism"? Is it because you don't believe God could have done it?

It is also paganism to insist that Mary had to remain a virgin for her entire life and thus make a mockery of her marriage vows before God.

How is it "paganism"? Is chapter 30 of Numbers "paganism"?

And I'm still not clear what you think is magic. Is the Virgin Birth "magic"? Because most non-Christians would agree that it is. Is someone being assumed into Heaven "magic"? Because most non-Christians would agree that it is. Is sinlessness "magic"? Most pagans don't believe in sin at all. Or is virginity "magic"? Because I don't think anyone believes it is maintained through magic.

9,519 posted on 10/08/2010 11:13:58 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee; Dr. Eckleburg

good try but making a neder doesn’t have much to do with staying virginal forever, and the Law says anyway that the father or the husband can revoke it. A neder is more like making a vow not to cut one’s hair, or drink wine, or fast for awhile. It was an attempt to be pius


9,520 posted on 10/08/2010 11:15:14 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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