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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]

Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)


TOPICS: Activism; Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
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To: MarkBsnr

The word is “krino” and means:
1) to separate, put asunder, to pick out, select, choose

2) to approve, esteem, to prefer

3) to be of opinion, deem, think, to be of opinion

4) to determine, resolve, decree

5) to judge

a) to pronounce an opinion concerning right and wrong

1) to be judged, i.e. summoned to trial that one’s case may be examined and judgment passed upon it

b) to pronounce judgment, to subject to censure

1) of those who act the part of judges or arbiters in matters of common life, or pass judgment on the deeds and words of others

6) to rule, govern

a) to preside over with the power of giving judicial decisions, because it was the prerogative of kings and rulers to pass judgment

7) to contend together, of warriors and combatants

a) to dispute

b) in a forensic sense

1) to go to law, have suit at law


9,161 posted on 10/06/2010 8:11:32 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: MarkBsnr

Not according to The Lord.


9,162 posted on 10/06/2010 8:36:56 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: John Leland 1789; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...

INDEED.

Sad to watch . . . when it isn’t so absurd as to be hilarious.


9,163 posted on 10/06/2010 8:38:25 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: annalex

I sometimes wonder if even THAT’s a true statement.

However, comprehension is different from merely reading, anyway.


9,164 posted on 10/06/2010 8:39:27 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: editor-surveyor

So it seems.


9,165 posted on 10/06/2010 8:40:00 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: wagglebee; Dr. Eckleburg; Alex Murphy; 1000 silverlings; OLD REGGIE; RnMomof7; blue-duncan; ...
(I included your visable ping list.)

Really, find me where Luther or Calvin EVER denied the perpetual virginity of the Blessed Mother.

Right here, in Calvin's Commentaries on Matthew 1:25:

25. And knew her not This passage afforded the pretext for great disturbances, which were introduced into the Church, at a former period, by Helvidius. The inference he drew from it was, that Mary remained a virgin no longer than till her first birth, and that afterwards she had other children by her husband. Jerome, on the other hand, earnestly and copiously defended Mary’s perpetual virginity. Let us rest satisfied with this, that no just and well-grounded inference can be drawn from these words of the Evangelist, as to what took place after the birth of Christ. He is called first-born; but it is for the sole purpose of informing us that he was born of a virgin.115115 “Il est nomme Premier nay, mais non pour autre raison, sinon afin que nous sachions qu'il est nay d'une mere vierge, et qui jamais n'avoit eu enfant;” — “he is called First-born, but for no other reason than that we may know that he was born of a pure virgin, and who never had had a child.” It is said that Joseph knew her not till she had brought forth her first-born son: but this is limited to that very time. What took place afterwards, the historian does not inform us. Such is well known to have been the practice of the inspired writers. Certainly, no man will ever raise a question on this subject, except from curiosity; and no man will obstinately keep up the argument, except from an extreme fondness for disputation. (emphasis added)

From this Calvin says it's unknowable. That is certainly a denial of her alleged ever-virginity being a truth.

9,166 posted on 10/06/2010 8:50:03 PM PDT by Forest Keeper ((It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.))
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To: Lera

This must be it.

Thx.

http://www.triumphpro.com/james-burial-box-proof-of-christ.pdf


9,167 posted on 10/06/2010 8:50:45 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: MarkBsnr

Jesus touched lepers. Nine months in contact with a sinful person isn’t going to contaminate Jesus. That person doesn’t need to be holy.

If Jesus identifies with us with us fully in our humanity, that would include being borne by a sinful mother, just like the rest of us.

Mary never had to be perfect and sinless, just obedient.


9,168 posted on 10/06/2010 9:33:39 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Lera; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; ...

We need to find some ways to post some of that on this thread.

I don’t have time to retype it. I suppose I could print the page and scan it then post the pic of the scan.

Need to find the most useful sections.

I’d thought the box had been declared more recent but evidently not—given the very rigorous scientific study of the rock it was made of etc.

The best scholars seem to put it about 63 AD—which matches various annecdotal historic accounts rather well.

It certainly does trash the lie that Christ had no blood half siblings and therefore the lie that Mary had no more children.

Thanks Thanks.


9,169 posted on 10/06/2010 9:35:31 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: editor-surveyor
"Latin has always been the preferred language of the occult; the very tongue of Satan."

Can you cite a reference or were you just pulling this out of the nether world?

9,170 posted on 10/06/2010 9:38:35 PM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: MarkBsnr; RnMomof7
If Mary was sinful, what would happen if Almighty God Himself came to inhabit her for 9 months?

Um, nothing.

Sin isn't transmitted by contact, nor is sinfulness, nor the sin nature.

The sin nature is inherited from the father, not contact with the mother.

The Ark carried God. You might want to head on back to the OT and read up on the Ark.

Jesus' body carried God.

There is not one verse in Scripture which indicates that the ark foreshadowed Mary. That's merely a Catholic construct used to justify the claim that she was immaculately conceived.

9,171 posted on 10/06/2010 9:41:11 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: annalex; count-your-change; RnMomof7
Yes, that is true. “She” there is a mistranslation and the Church acknowledges that.

Yeah. Now. now that they HAD to because people were learning the truth about it.

It was the RCC which deliberately mistranslated it in the first place. They're no heroes for correcting their own deliberate mistranslation.

9,172 posted on 10/06/2010 9:44:40 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Quix

I think this makes a good case for it being real.
They arrest the guy who added claiming he was making forgeries but what are the chances he would know the differences in the changes of the language ?
To claim it a forgery would benefit many.

” The script is very important for the date because the Aramaic script changed over time in way we could measure ,” said P. Kyle McCarter , a paleographer at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore, Maryland. “It’s the most important criterion for dating this object , and the script is consistent with the date in the middle of the first century A.D.


9,173 posted on 10/06/2010 9:47:25 PM PDT by Lera
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To: count-your-change

What a bunch of , ummm... errrr... nonsense.

The victory is Jesus. Not Mary’s.

God will not share His glory with another.


9,174 posted on 10/06/2010 9:48:31 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: John Leland 1789; Quix
OR . . . ."

Maybe the Jedi mind trick really does work on anti-Catholics.

9,175 posted on 10/06/2010 9:52:51 PM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: Quix

The age of the box was not in question but rather part of the inscription (and it’s the inscription that gives value to the box) some experts had declared of recent date.

The collector that sold the box was arrested for fraud. So at last I saw, it was dueling experts on part of the inscription’s authenticity.


9,176 posted on 10/06/2010 9:54:34 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Look in the mirror.


9,177 posted on 10/06/2010 9:57:52 PM PDT by Jaded (I realized that after Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says W T F)
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To: Lera

I agree.


9,178 posted on 10/06/2010 10:01:41 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Natural Law

NOPE.

Nor do the white hankys


9,179 posted on 10/06/2010 10:02:14 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

I don’t have time to retype it. I suppose I could print the page and scan it then post the pic of the scan.


No need to type when you can cut & paste :)

Highlight the parts you want and hit Ctrl and C
then open up Word and paste what you want into it by hitting Ctrl and V


9,180 posted on 10/06/2010 10:02:50 PM PDT by Lera
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