Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
Thank you for stating the obvious, you've got a real knack for that.
So predictable. The holy roller in question was a Roman Catholic not one of your ilk.
When God Almighty comes down and spends nine months in your womb, you'd better be sinless. Think of the Ark of the Covenant, that God dwelt in. Rays of death came out and killed the enemies of the Israelites. What more would they have done to sinful flesh that He dwelt in for nine months?
The sin nature comes through the father. Physical contact with sinful people does not nor did not contaminate Jesus, otherwise He could not have touched sinners while here on earth.
His holiness is so powerful that sin can’t contaminate or over come it. It overcomes sin.
It's either one or the other, not both.
And what the heck does that have to do with the Trinity?
Who do people believe Jesus is, and what does that mean in terms of the bona fide Trinity?
I understand where you are coming from, but consider this: Catholics believe that God is the final Judge; we cannot pin our salvation on ourselves before He does. If you pin salvation on yourself before He does, then you are obliging Him to agree with you. Correct?
We "Protestants", "Reformers" or whatever else label you prefer do not impose our will upon God for their own salvation and that statement itself makes no sense whatsoever. I am pretty sure, after all these posts, that you really don't believe it's true either but are trying to make a point.
The self identification of having personal salvation means exactly that.
We know that. We're trying to find you .
You’ll have to look in the body of Christ.
But you’ll have to relinquish your pagan legalism to even get close to it.
Why? jesus came to be born INTO the human experience, not protected from it.. He came to eat and drink with winebibbers and tax collectors ..Christ came to walk the same dirty roads and get His feet soiled and cut just like his apostles..
His mother was responsible for His humanness , His DNA, His human nature.. The Father was the author of His divinity . He did not need a goddess mother to be God incarnate
BTW The ark of the covenant was Jesus not Mary, unless she is the judge of the world and needs a Mercy seat upon her.. Tha ark led the people into battle.. Mark the OT is all about CHRIST not His mother
His holiness is so powerful that sin can’t contaminate or over come it. It overcomes sin.
EXACTLY that is why Marys spiritual condition was of no consequence
He lived in this world, and was tempted as we are.. and ONLY He never sinned
Correct, and that is what everyman that credits himself with being able to purchase his salvation by following church law, or the commandments or good deeds tries . They are attempting to be able to say to God, you owe me salvation based on MY MERITS . I am "better " than most people...It is an attempt to oblige God to save you
But the saved do not credit themselves with anything of value before God.. Like the publican we stand before God as sinners in need of a Savior.. We credit Christ, as the author and finisher of our faith.. we have no standing or merit before God EXCEPT IN CHRIST..who is our propitiation before God, who merited salvation for us by His work..not ours..
The self identification of having personal salvation means exactly that.
Mark let me ask you, why does God save men?
When God Almighty comes down and spends nine months in your womb, you'd better be sinless. Think of the Ark of the Covenant, that God dwelt in. Rays of death came out and killed the enemies of the Israelites. What more would they have done to sinful flesh that He dwelt in for nine months?
The sin nature comes through the father. Physical contact with sinful people does not nor did not contaminate Jesus, otherwise He could not have touched sinners while here on earth.
His holiness is so powerful that sin can’t contaminate or over come it. It overcomes sin.
It's either one or the other, not both.
And what the heck does that have to do with the Trinity?
Who do people belive Jesus is, and what does that mean?
I am interested in the scripture, not in the spin someone can put on the scripture.
The phenomenon of Prods becoming fixed, for a thousand posts or so, on some aspect of the Catholic Church is well known to anyone who participates on these open threads.
The original topic of the thread doesn't matter, Prods will go off on their tangent until everyone is sick of it. A month later, they'll pick up each tangent again.
This was my reply to the same post you posted earlier
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2578704/posts?page=9107#9107
Don't catholics have to accept Rome's "spin"
This is not about me. It is about Paul telling us that we Christians are to run the race to the end, and it is primarily about Jesus telling us what happens at the end - which is the Judgement of Christ, not the assured salvation of the self elected elite.
in purgatory?
A truly asinine statement. Have you any more?
And who may I ask have you conferred the title on - me or Kosta? Perhaps you can explain in what way the words "presence" and "person" have become synonyms.
Not sure what you mean - can you elaborate?
You might want to practice it for when you're dead.
You MUST visit the dental hygienist soon - there’s far too much yellowing of the teeth.
I'm surrounded by it. Stand up and I'll see if I can see you. Wave, or something.
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