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To: metmom
Why was it necessary for Mary to have been sinless to conceive and carry Jesus?

When God Almighty comes down and spends nine months in your womb, you'd better be sinless. Think of the Ark of the Covenant, that God dwelt in. Rays of death came out and killed the enemies of the Israelites. What more would they have done to sinful flesh that He dwelt in for nine months?

The sin nature comes through the father. Physical contact with sinful people does not nor did not contaminate Jesus, otherwise He could not have touched sinners while here on earth.

His holiness is so powerful that sin can’t contaminate or over come it. It overcomes sin.

It's either one or the other, not both.

And what the heck does that have to do with the Trinity?

Who do people believe Jesus is, and what does that mean in terms of the bona fide Trinity?

9,103 posted on 10/06/2010 3:57:54 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr; metmom
When God Almighty comes down and spends nine months in your womb, you'd better be sinless. Think of the Ark of the Covenant, that God dwelt in. Rays of death came out and killed the enemies of the Israelites. What more would they have done to sinful flesh that He dwelt in for nine months?

Why? jesus came to be born INTO the human experience, not protected from it.. He came to eat and drink with winebibbers and tax collectors ..Christ came to walk the same dirty roads and get His feet soiled and cut just like his apostles..

His mother was responsible for His humanness , His DNA, His human nature.. The Father was the author of His divinity . He did not need a goddess mother to be God incarnate

BTW The ark of the covenant was Jesus not Mary, unless she is the judge of the world and needs a Mercy seat upon her.. Tha ark led the people into battle.. Mark the OT is all about CHRIST not His mother

His holiness is so powerful that sin can’t contaminate or over come it. It overcomes sin.

EXACTLY that is why Marys spiritual condition was of no consequence

He lived in this world, and was tempted as we are.. and ONLY He never sinned

9,107 posted on 10/06/2010 4:29:54 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: MarkBsnr

Jesus touched lepers. Nine months in contact with a sinful person isn’t going to contaminate Jesus. That person doesn’t need to be holy.

If Jesus identifies with us with us fully in our humanity, that would include being borne by a sinful mother, just like the rest of us.

Mary never had to be perfect and sinless, just obedient.


9,168 posted on 10/06/2010 9:33:39 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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