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Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]
Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
Jesus told Paul everything Paul knew, but not everything Jesus knew. Given a choice between the two as to whose words are the primary source I will choose Christ and therefore be a Christian. What you do is your business.
Didn’t finish that — Now you can study medieval poetry and literary convention.
Another one who doesn’t recognize irony when he sees it.
> “Jesus told Paul everything Paul knew, but not everything Jesus knew.”
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Since neither you nor I have the foggiest notion what Jesus knows, your retort is meaningless.
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I think that's an utterly indefensible statement, plucked out of thin air. They are neither "everything" nor systematic theology.
It was just a little needle, not a calling out. I don't want to rattle your (old) cage.
Completely illogical...The red letters in the Gospels are the words of Jesus filter thru the writers of the Gospels...
The fact is: they are both primary...And they both support each other...
When and if RC apologists ever get around to posting the truth, we'll all be the better for it.
Tick...tock...
We’ll take that as an admission that you have no proof the website is hosted by Protestants, as you wrongly stated as fact.
Are you saying "Catholics don't believe in total depravity"?
Here's two, both of whom claim to be Catholic, who do.
(stfassisi) "In the totally depraved mind of a calvinist everything natural and normal is thought of as dirty."
(MarkBsnr) "You're just saying that because it is true."
I do recognize a perfectly stupid remark when I see it.
You many not know, but I do. Christ is omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent. If you can conceive of a hypostasis of the Trinity that is anything less then whatever you are conceptualizing is something less than God and therefore not God.
You mean THIS WIKIPEDIA...?
The country is historically about evenly balanced between Catholic and Protestant, with a complex patchwork of majorities over most of the country. One canton, Appenzell, was officially divided into Catholic and Protestant sections in 1597.[132] The larger cities (Bern, Geneva, Zürich and Basel) are predominantly Protestant
So your evidence does not say Catholicism was historically the predominant faith of Switzerland, and it does say Geneva is "predominantly Protestant."
I invite everyone interested to simply spend ten minutes researching the subject. They will conclude, like I have, that although there have been pockets of Protestant majority since the Reformation, the whole of Switzerland has been predominantly Catholic for the last 1200 years.
Not according to your own reference.
By any objective standard or independent research anyone on these sites can clearly and easily determine what is right and who is lying.
You got that right.
It's Sarcasm,now carry on.
Catholics don’t believe in total depravity, if some protestants want to believe in it we’ll take them at their word I suppose. If someone believes in total depravity then their world view is obviously colored by that belief.
Just as a Catholic who believes in Baptismal regeneration had better behave like a regenerated creature... and frankly, Protestants should hold us to it.
No, I mean this one wikipedia
While Geneva was historically considered a Protestant city, there are over twice as many Roman Catholics (39.5%) as Protestants (17.4%) living in the Canton.
That is exactly the king of input I would expect with nothing relevant to contribute the to discussion. Show a little pride and try to act like an adult.
Don’t you think you’d look more attractive if you closed your mouth when you had your picture taken? ;-)
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