Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]
Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
> “The Gospels are the foundation of the New Testament and the Letters of Paul, which the Calvinists base their entire dogma play only a supporting role.”
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Spoken as a true unbeliever!
The epistles (all of them together) are the totality of the instructions to the church.
Immediately after them you will find the condemnation of the errors of men, trying to form their own church that sidesteps the commandments of God.
The Gospels are eye witness testimony of the incarnation, death and resurrection of the Son of God.
YES! That's enough of this silliness.
"In the totally depraved mind of a calvinist everything natural and normal is thought of as dirty."
In the totally depraved mind of a Catholic everything natural and normal is thought of as dirty.
Are they both ok with you?
We don’t believe in total depravity...
LOL! You can’t read an internet post in the spirit it which it was intended, but you can plumb the depths of Scripture.
Really? The writers of the epistles seem to intend them to churches that are already going concerns.
Far be it from me to challenge status of Micheloud & Cie as world renown Church historians [sarc]. Apparently I just happen to have higher standards for proof than you do.
> “The writers of the epistles seem to intend them to churches that are already going concerns.”
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Yes, as they were obviously continuation of synogogues that had been going for probably over a century. They needed instruction, and clarification, which Paul in particular gave them in great detail.
They had already received the faith and were established — the epistles encourage and correct and elaborate on the faith already received, but they don’t lay it out from scratch.
That is why you are a Pauilian and not a Christian.
That the oracles have a complicated history I knew already but thanks anyway.
Not so obvious since they were letters to Gentiles and not Jews.
Paul was the only one that had a full, personal revelation from the Lord.
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You have it backwards!
You must be confused as to what you are replying to.
Your reply makes no sense.
THX THX.
WELL PUT.
THX THX.
Not sure what you're claiming here -- I don't know of any indication that Luke was an eye-witness at all; in fact, he as much as says he wasn't. Surely none of the evangelists were eye-witnesses to the Incarnation and the events of infancy and childhood.
> “ but they don’t lay it out from scratch.”
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Oh, but yes they do! - Absolutely everything is in the epistles.
The stuff that you are looking to as not included were the idolatry that that formed the foundation of the Roman Catholic Anti-church.
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Good. Now you can study medieval poetry.
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