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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]

Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)


TOPICS: Activism; Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: individualliberty
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To: Quix; Dr. Eckleburg
Pontificated, rabbit fur lined diplo-speak weasel words

well ok, just dont call the goddess a pet rabbit

8,201 posted on 10/02/2010 11:32:38 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: 1000 silverlings

LOL.

INDEED.

Thx.


8,202 posted on 10/02/2010 11:34:27 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: OLD REGGIE

the wailing that would ensue


8,203 posted on 10/02/2010 11:34:42 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Natural Law; Judith Anne
It appears the standard isn't so much what is being said, or even how it is being said. I appears to be more about who is saying it and even more about whom it is being said to. I just need to recalibrate. As a Catholic I don't expect fair treatment from the secular world or the so-called Christians. The anti-Catholic biases are so ingrained and institutionalized in our culture that many don't even realize they are guilty of it.

I realize that it is "bovine dung", but even the etymology of the modern cognate of that term contains an anti-Catholic slur. The word "bull" is a derogatory and offensive reference to Papal edicts.

Perhaps you should set up a "Crybaby Caucus" with your friend.


8,204 posted on 10/02/2010 11:35:55 AM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: OLD REGGIE; Natural Law
we can note how this indeed applies , using some people here and their own petards

The anti-Protestant biases are so ingrained and institutionalized in our Catholic culture that many don't even realize they are guilty of it.

8,205 posted on 10/02/2010 11:39:59 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Quix

Nice font.


8,206 posted on 10/02/2010 11:40:37 AM PDT by Jaded (I realized that after Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says W T F)
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To: OLD REGGIE
"Perhaps you should set up a "Crybaby Caucus""

Were I to allow you to drive me from the forum I would be granting you the powers of Sampson and be figuratively slain by the jawbone of an ass (KJV Judges 15:15).

8,207 posted on 10/02/2010 11:43:02 AM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: Jaded
THX THX.
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I wish there was about a 1.5 size . . . maybe that would work. Let me see.
uuuhhhhhh NOPE. LOL
Still no at 1.0 How about a simple 1

Maybe that's large enough for most things.

8,208 posted on 10/02/2010 11:44:50 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Natural Law; Religion Moderator; Judith Anne
"Do not finesse the guidelines by using the same or similar language without a direct Biblical reference."

Since this is the Religion Forum and not the Christian Forum am I restricted to using only Christian scriptural references or am I permitted to use scriptural references from any major religion such as the following:

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(I had a Philosophy Minor)

When is enough just plain enough?

8,209 posted on 10/02/2010 11:44:55 AM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: Natural Law

The Shobogenzo, the Lankavatara Sutra, The Lotus Sutra? Can we party here?


8,210 posted on 10/02/2010 12:11:30 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: OLD REGGIE
When is enough just plain enough?

When we see Him as He is and not before.

8,211 posted on 10/02/2010 12:13:21 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: RnMomof7; Quix; 1000 silverlings
Man up for petes sake

ROTFLOL!

RCs find much of the Bible offensive. Must be just another rationalization for them not to read the Bible.

QUIX: Pontificated, rabbit fur lined diplo-speak weasel words are more things to be validly allergic to, imho. I think Christ demonstrated a similar attitude--sometimes with his raw language.

LOLOL and AMEN!

Gone a litte while and I miss all the fun.

8,212 posted on 10/02/2010 12:16:35 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: 1000 silverlings; Quix; RnMomof7
well ok, just dont call the goddess a pet rabbit

LOL. How about just a pet? Something convenient to pull out when in need of comfort and not finding it in Jesus Christ alone.

Clearly, He is not sufficient for them.

8,213 posted on 10/02/2010 12:19:01 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Mary is like mommy, pure and virginal, if she had conjugal relations, it was one time to beget them


8,214 posted on 10/02/2010 12:23:17 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: 1000 silverlings; RnMomof7; Quix; OLD REGGIE; metmom
Mary is like mommy, pure and virginal, if she had conjugal relations, it was one time to beget them

That statement is at the heart of why so many RCs are so sexually confused and angry.

Woman/Madonna/wife/mother/mistress/whore.

There's a reason Irish men marry late in life and why Italian men take mistresses.

Their concept of healthy human sexuality is screwed up by their church.

But that sexuality comes out, one way or another, with pederast priests and Roman Catholics believing Mary was "the spouse of the Holy Spirit" who had a bloodless delivery at Christ's birth.

Rome doesn't like women. Period.

I watched "Doubt" again the other day and there's that GREAT scene where Philip Seymour Hoffman is eating dinner with the other priests. They are eating with their hands, tearing the flesh off the bone, while telling nasty jokes about women.

What a great movie.

8,215 posted on 10/02/2010 12:30:05 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; RnMomof7; Gamecock; Alex Murphy
Period.

dont use language like that on this forum

8,216 posted on 10/02/2010 12:33:53 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Natural Law
Does this mean that the beatitudes were some kind of practical joke Jesus was playing on the assembled masses

Jesus did not set forth his teaching to be taken in a legalistic sense—that by behaving this way, we will gain rewards from God.

The beatitudes instead are an introduction to a discourse that instead presents the “righteousness” of that Kingdom where jesus gives us a teaching that gives us actions and examples of the life of the one that is born again..

The beatitudes are not works but tell us the new state that is come with our new life in Christ and thus may be seen and practiced in a believer . If you notice this was not a teaching to the masses, but to His disciples

Mat 5;1And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him: 2And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying,........

. The Beatitudes are not works needed to be saved , instead they describe the new state that has now come, IN Jesus.

The beatitudes describe the Christian character, These virtues which are completely at odds with the world.The Beatitudes are nine statements from Jesus giving the attributes of His genuine disciples

He the goes on to preach to them how those virtues play out in their lives .

8,217 posted on 10/02/2010 12:36:04 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: 1000 silverlings

lolol


8,218 posted on 10/02/2010 12:40:17 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: 1000 silverlings; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; Alex Murphy
Period.
dont use language like that on this forum

I am tell you it is incredible to me that biological words cause offense to some virgin ears here

If they read the bible they would find words and circumstances that would make them blush..

8,219 posted on 10/02/2010 12:41:31 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7; Dr. Eckleburg

lol, I just finished reading the story of Absalom, and yet David loved him and wept at his death. Lots of interesting material there to ponder


8,220 posted on 10/02/2010 12:45:30 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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