Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
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Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
RNmom7 -What I do understand is that catholics have more faith in Mystic visions than they do in the scriptures.. which is how the deception entered ...and....Satan can and does all these things.. they all add up to witchcraft
According to your analogy Saint John of Patmos must have been practicing witchcraft and the book of Revelation does not belong than
You fail to understand the difference between Christian Mystics and Gnostic mystics once again.
The Christian Mystics Saint Maximus the Confessor,Saint Macarios Saint Padre Pio, Saint Avila etc...all received these spiritual gifts from Christ and all of them gave credit to Christ for these gifts
These magnificent Saints knew the power of prayer and you are making a mistake in calling it witchcraft
From the words of Saint Maximus The Confessor...
“All the virtues co-operate with the intellect to produce this intense longing for God, pure prayer above all. For by soaring towards God through this prayer the intellect rises above the realism of created beings.”
I believe what the bible says.
Ok. I'll take that as a no to WCF and double-predestination.
you might want to read the bible, lol
The Epistle of St. Irving to the Romans? I remember when I was a new convert hearing a very nervous lector announce "A reading from the letter of St. Paul to the Filipinos". Oh that cracked me up.
Would "The Apostle Irving" have written different epistles? The same doctrine would have been communicated to us but in a different way, wouldn't it? Surely his personality would have been his own, Paul's writing style is different than John's for instance so it seems something of the writer shines through.
In the same way suppose it had been "The Blessed Virgin Hannah"... the same Christ would have been born... but would there have been ANY differences?
Acts 17 24"The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by hands. 25And he is not served by human hands, as if he needed anything, because he himself gives all men life and breath and everything else. 26From one man he made every nation of men, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he determined the times set for them and the exact places where they should live. 27God did this so that men would seek him and perhaps reach out for him and find him, though he is not far from each one of us.
would Christ have been different if he was an inch taller or shorter? Had black rather than brown hair? Blue eyes instead of brown? what are you getting at?
Bless you. This is kind of why my prayer is that God break my heart. My heart of stone wants to win. The heart with which I love Jesus — the same heart with which He loves me — wants reconciliation in Christ.
Where's the free will in that?
God didn’t call Irving, He called Paul. Who was Paul? What does the bible say?
if they’re not born elect, they make’em elect, lol
HMMMMMMMMMM
Jesus came to fulfill the Plan of Salvation, that was his God given purpose and all that was important. Scripture says that his earthly appearance was nothing exceptional. All Mary needed was to be in the line of David, so once again, anything she had that was noteworthy was from God in the first place
Check the Catholic birth rates in place "B" and get back to me.
Appreciate the compliment.
What is clearly see on these threads is Catholics have no clue what the scriptures say or mean . They do not understand basic rues of good Hermeneutics
You have in the last few days, in tune with the rest of the Reformed, have done an excellent job of posting a completely false and rather repellent rendition of what you guys call Christianity.
I ask again did the Father die on the cross? When you insist that all the trinity preforms the same action then that is what you get
No matter how many times you ask, you will get the same answer. When Scripture says it is explicitly One of the Trinity, then that One it is. Scripture says that Jesus died on the Cross, not the Father. You may wish to look up your Old Testament Gospels or wherever it is that you keep them.
Your Trinitarian beliefs are demonstrably heretical, and your description of the Gospels as OT are equally as false. Do these beliefs come from you or are they taught by your cult?
No, we dislike the deification of Paul. Paul was not assigned to be the primary teacher to the NT church. There is no Scripture to back that up. Paul was a great bishop and evangelizer - that much is plain. But Paul is not the god that the Reformed especially have created while eliminating a goodly portion of his actual writings.
So many "mysteries ' are answered in scripture ...
Okay.
This isn't a caucus thread, its a religion thread otherwise we could make the case for banning Paulians and non-Trinitarians.
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