Intended Catholic Dictatorship

Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

[RnMomof7]

From your home page
*Whoever wishes to be saved must, above all, keep the CATHOLIC faith. For unless a person keeps this faith whole and entire, he will undoubtedly be lost forever. *
There are 1000 silverlings, but only One Branch

Boy will he be surprised !

[RnMomof7]

*May Blessed Teresa of Calcutta grant that you learn humility*
is she the dispenser of humility now?

Well if Mary dispenses grace I guess MT could be put in charge of humility..If her words were true, she is in a great place to learn it

[OLD REGGIE]

Just one more thing, Kosta, you don't even believe in all this "Christian" stuff, why are you even in the discussion this way? Nothing else better to do?

Kosta has as much right to participate in this discussion as any convential "Christian". (I have been asked the same question, even "invited" to leave the discussion so I may have a slightly more "Unitarian" perspective.) :-)

[OLD REGGIE]

The enemy of my enemy is my friend, eh? The odious Pew crew hate Christians - they only identify as hating Catholics more. Perhaps you might research them as to the other findings that they have presented. Straws...

I fully expect you will provide a current survey from a "reputable" source. Reasonable huh?

[boatbums]

..we must consider Scripture and its source. The Gospels are the quotations of Jesus. Jesus is Lord God Almighty. I am baffled by alleged Christians acting as if (but not overtly confirming) that the words of e.g. Nehemiah or the Chronicler are as important if not more important than the words of Almighty God. I mean, do you really consider Lamentations as important as the Sermon on the Mount?

Yes, we most definitely should consider the source. "All scripture is given by inspiration of God" comes to mind. The Gospels are quite a lot more than "just" the quotations of Jesus, if you are familiar with them. And in the same way, the rest of scripture is relevant in many ways to our lives. I think it is a little spurious to try to place "importance" of some "over" others since God has chosen to reveal himself to us in this way and has preserved it from destruction for all these millennium. The only "alleged" Christians I have read that have tried to place preeminence of some scripture over others are the ones who claim their own revealed, extra-biblical documents.

[RnMomof7]

I can believe you or I can believe Jesus
Matthew 5:17 "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

This is what happens when 1)you do not read the Bible, 2) when you believe God is going to weigh your "good works" against your "bad" and judge you that way, and 3) you believe you get to work off your sins in purgatory

From their FAVORITE writer

Jam 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one [point], he is guilty of all.

Eze 18:4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.

Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Gal 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed [is] every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

[D-fendr]

That’s not a very nice thing to say about the WCF or Institutes of the Christian Religion.

:)

[RnMomof7]

Why would Christ mind being “second fiddle” or God’s “errand boy” seeing that he said he sought not his own will but that of he who sent him, God? As the Scriptures reflect, Jesus is always in an inferior position to his father.

They do not understand...

[RnMomof7]

Actually we REALLY believe the Trinity is 3 PERSONS in one God

Not one god with 3 personas

[D-fendr]

It’s much simpler than all that:

You’re either born lucky or born unlucky.

The rest is superfluous to anything regarding salvation.

[RnMomof7]

I believe that according to double-predestination, the only thing required for salvation is to be born lucky.

An attempt to change the subject?

[Jaded]

ag·nos·tic (ag-nos?tik) noun
One who believes that there can be no proof of the existence of God but does not deny the possibility that God exists.

Agnosticism is the view that the truth value of certain claims—especially claims about the existence or non-existence of any deity, but also other religious and metaphysical claims—is unknown or unknowable.

a·the·ism (?the-iz´?m) noun

1. a. Disbelief in or denial of the existence of God or gods. b. The doctrine that there is no God or gods.
2. Godlessness; immorality.

Atheism, in a broad sense, is the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.

[D-fendr]

An attempt to avoid the subject?

[OLD REGGIE]

"I guess I do not understand if someone believes something why they would be afraid to share it."

Matthew 7:6

To be expected from an

snob.

[count-your-change]

It's not John who creates the “problem”, if it be such, for the church but those that attempt to force that square peg of “ if Christ is God, and God is one, then the Word is co-equal to and co-eternal with the Father and the Spirit” into the round opening of John's writing.

[RnMomof7]

What is more humble? To believe, as RCs believe, their own good works and righteousness save them, or to believe, as Protestants believe, that Christ's good work and Christ's righteousness save them?

That is the 1 million dollar question..

[Natural Law]

"Your reading comprehension is faulty"

Any presumption to know what is going on inside my head is "mind reading" and, in the words of Martin Luther, verboten. Please comply with the rules or refrain from posting to or about me.

[1000 silverlings]

*I'm really getting annoyed at the self appointed hall monitors who preach, warn, and threaten others over perceived rules infractions but can't seem to post more than a dozen in a row without themselves breaking the rules*

then what is with the ad hominems?

[count-your-change]

There is always that final and best argument of waving the hands in the air and saying “it’s a MYSTERY!”.

[RnMomof7]

It’s not very humble to believe, as Calvinists believe, their own birth has saved them no matter what they do, think or say or how they act towards others.

See the difference is we know we have nothing to commend ourselves to God, that nothing we could do would deserve anything but hell.. all our righteousness is filthy bloody menstrual rags before a HOLY God

But you are still trying to change the topic