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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief

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To: RnMomof7
Insults are not answers

I do not believe that you can be insulted.

Did God die on the cross or did only the son of man/ the son of mary die on the cross

The Incarnate Jesus did.

I believe that the Catholics here have said all actions of the trinity are done by all three..

Your beliefs are as amusing as they are invalid.

Did God the Father and Jesus the son impregnate Mary ?

Luke says that the Holy Spirit did.

7,701 posted on 09/29/2010 7:20:45 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: RnMomof7; Kolokotronis; MarkBsnr; stfassisi; Natural Law; Judith Anne
It is sad when people that claim the title "christian" do not understand the trinity and sound like modalists

I agree. That's exactly how the Protestants sound.

The Father has the Son preform all these works as His agent...The Father does all these things through the Spirits Powet The first covenant was between the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit

This is nothing short of heresy.

7,702 posted on 09/29/2010 7:21:25 PM PDT by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
His posts are crude, arrogant and ignorant.

Are you posting to me as if I were in the third person. Well, given the Reformed misunderstanding of the Trinity, I suppose that such grammatical error is not to be unexpected.

Not a Godly fusion.

More Reformed gibberish.

More like combustible.

Even more Reformed gibberish.

7,703 posted on 09/29/2010 7:24:30 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: OLD REGGIE
You couldn't be suggesting that the celibate Priest should be castrated????

RC apologists seem to think Christ was advocating castration and eunuchs.

Christ was sympathetic to those who had been born deformed or who were castrated for whatever foul reasons.

But He certainly wasn't advocating the practice.

Rome has always had a strange and perverse conception of human sexuality. Christians believe the body is good because God made our bodies and gave us life in those bodies. And from those bodies God creates new life. One day we will even be re-united to our glorified bodies.

God does not want us in self-inflicted pain, such as JPII regularly flogging himself with a leather belt.

God wants us in joy.

7,704 posted on 09/29/2010 7:25:00 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"The RC population has grown in the past 15 years due to RC immigrants from Italy, Spain and Portugal."

As usual you are playing loose with the facts. Did it ever occur to you that all of this is verifiable by anyone with an internet connection (every Freeper)?

In 2007, 1.45 million resident foreigners (85.4%, or 19.1% of the total population[12]), had European citizenship (Italian: 295,507; German: 224,324; citizens of Serbia and Montenegro: 196,078; Portuguese: 193,299; French: 83,129; Turkish: 75,382; Spanish: 66,519, Macedonian: 60,509; Bosnian: 41,654; Croatian: 38,144; Austrian: 36,155; British: 32,207). ; 109,113 residents were from Asia; 69,010 from the Americas; 66,599 from Africa; and 3,777 from Oceania.

That means that only 1/3 of the immigration is "due to RC immigrants from Italy, Portugal and Spain.

7,705 posted on 09/29/2010 7:25:18 PM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: RnMomof7
Catholics do not even know what the beatitudes even teach, so I would be surprised if you did Mark

We have been trying to teach the meaning of the beatitudes to you guys for years, now. Which Catholics do not know them? Names, please?

7,706 posted on 09/29/2010 7:26:06 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr; Dr. Eckleburg

Ping to #7705


7,707 posted on 09/29/2010 7:26:36 PM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
lol. Everyone’s out of step but Rome. How’s that working for you?

It's not about me. It's about Christ. That is what separates the beliefs of the Reformed from those of Christians.

7,708 posted on 09/29/2010 7:27:34 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Ping to #7705

LOL

7,709 posted on 09/29/2010 7:27:48 PM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: Jaded
Fact doesn’t matter anymore. This is like watching the network news. Occasionally they are correct.

Well, prattling. They know the words of the Nicene Creed, but they have not clue one as to what they actually mean as determined by the Church 1600 years ago; they simply try to reinvent the meaning every day by every individual.

7,710 posted on 09/29/2010 7:30:27 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr; RnMomof7

Thanks.

RnMom, I meant to also ping you to post 7691

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2578704/posts?page=7691#7691


7,711 posted on 09/29/2010 7:31:10 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"That's hardly the "more than two to one" lie we've seen flung around here."

Speaking of lies flung around here......clearly you are not a math or statistics major. There are a total of 6 million Swiss and a total of 1.4 million immigrants of which only a third are from Catholic countries. Your numbers like your theology and history just don't add up. Do you do the polling for the Obama administration?

7,712 posted on 09/29/2010 7:32:26 PM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: kosta50; RnMomof7
The Father has the Son preform all these works as His agent...The Father does all these things through the Spirits Powet The first covenant was between the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit

This is nothing short of heresy.

Very good catch, sir. I missed these statements. It is unconscionable that a Christian should have even conceived these thoughts, much less post them as if they were Christian beliefs. Unbelieveable. Do the Reformed really believe that they can just make it all up as they go along?

7,713 posted on 09/29/2010 7:39:13 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"Rome just makes stuff up.Thank God you are not talking about the Catholic Church. The Rome city government is largely communist and socialist. That is why I prefer Vatican City.
7,714 posted on 09/29/2010 7:42:16 PM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: Natural Law; Dr. Eckleburg
As usual you are playing loose with the facts. Did it ever occur to you that all of this is verifiable by anyone with an internet connection (every Freeper)?

The thing is that the Calvinist branch of the Reformation is losing. They are losing everywhere in the world. They have lost Switzerland. They are losing Scotland, as the Church of Scotland relaxes its Calvinist grip and at the same time is hemorrhaging members. Puritan New England and the Reformed colonies are lost. There are pockets of Calvinism here and there, but they are going the way of the dinosaur and flat earth societies.

With that sensation of loss comes desperation. Why do you think that the Reformed that are left come out of the woodwork and cracks in the floor during Easter and Christmas and during the Pope's reclamation of Britain for Christianity? Desperation. They are scared of going down in history as a failure and as a demonstrated departure from Christianity.

7,715 posted on 09/29/2010 7:46:52 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr; RnMomof7; Gamecock; Alex Murphy; HarleyD; wmfights; Forest Keeper; 1000 silverlings; ...
the fact is that the number of true Reformed believers are declining rapidly in the United States and even more rapidly in the rest of the world.

Your fever dreams are incorrect, Mark. Reformed Presbyterians, Baptists, Anglicans, Methodists and Congregationalists are all growing mightily.

We'll pause while you cite the numbers for the OPC, but please check out the numbers for the Presbyterian Church in America which is growing throughout the US and the world.

Last week I also posted a link showing that by 2022, Brazil will be predominantly Protestant, due to the tremendous current shift away from Roman Catholicism towards Pentecostal and Reformed faith.

Rome is fading, closing parochial schools and seminaries all over the country. Rome's singular increase comes from immigration from a few South American countries, Italy, Spain and Portugal.

The rest of the world is turning from Rome to the light of the Gospel.

STUDY: CATHOLICS LOSING FAITH

In the marketplace of American faith, Catholicism is the big loser.

No other religion in the United States has lost more members to other faiths, or to no faith at all, than Catholicism, according to the new survey released by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life. The survey, conducted in 2007, found that 31 percent of Americans were raised Catholic, but less than 25 per cent of them still identify as Catholic...

And Rome would be in an even worse situation without illegal immigration propping up its membership rolls.

7,716 posted on 09/29/2010 7:54:03 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Natural Law; OLD REGGIE
It's a really good question from Old Reggie. Don't you have an answer? Even a guess? As Old Reggie asked you...

"What was the purpose of Jesus speaking in parables?"

7,717 posted on 09/29/2010 8:01:43 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Mrs. Frogjerk; RnMomof7

I’ll refer you to RnMomof7’s post here...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2578704/posts?page=7565#7565


7,718 posted on 09/29/2010 8:06:23 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Natural Law; Legatus
It doesn't really matter how many good works Mother Teresa did. If she did not do those good works in the name of Jesus Christ, for Jesus Christ, then she got her reward in this life through acclaim and the praises of men.

I understand the loyalty Catholics have to her and, as I said earlier, I hope and pray she did not die in despair and unbelief. Jesus said:

Matthew 10:32-33
Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.
But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

I cannot imagine going through the adversities she did without her faith in Christ to sustain her, but she DID say those things spoken of her denial of him and she said them before others. I would love to know she saw the light in the end. I will not criticize her or disparage her efforts. I pray that the people who carry on her mission to this day do not fall into such an abyss.

7,719 posted on 09/29/2010 8:07:20 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: MarkBsnr; RnMomof7
Do the Reformed really believe that they can just make it all up as they go along?

Sure, it's like Lego blocks; you can make anything you want; it's called cherry-picking and it's accomplished with a Reformed Random Verse Generator. :)

I must admit, however, this is the first time I have seen such blatant heresy stated as a "Christian" doctrine on Trinity, to wit: the Son is an obedient "agent" of the Father. Obviously co-equal and co-eternal are not concepts in the Lego Trinity.

7,720 posted on 09/29/2010 8:08:20 PM PDT by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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