Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]
Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
Clearly, yours isn't in English grammar.
Thanks. That's hardly the "more than two to one" lie we've seen flung around here.
One of the truths Catholics can not understand is that truth is not a democracy . It is not dependent on numbers . The truth is the truth even if only one person believes it..
Many are called but few are chosen Mark, the crowd yelled crucify Him.. So even if Dr E and I meet alone in a phone booth Christ will be there..
The three of us will be a crowd.
Rom 11:5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
Did ya ask for the SAT score? LOL
Thank you.
The article I quoted from is written is from one of the premier news services in Switzerland. Hardly a questionable source. There are several other references out there that confirm Natural Law’s Wikipedia quote. The Reformed must face the facts that Reformed in name only is declining rapidly, and the actual Reformed believers are miniscule in number and shrinking at an even faster rate.
The truth is that Roman Catholicism is dwindling in this country (its only growth coming from illegal immigration.)
Seminaries and parochial schools are closing all over the country, most recently dozens in New York City.
lol. Everyone’s out of step but Rome.
How’s that working for you?
Insults are not answers.. Did God die on the cross or did only the son of man/ the son of mary die on the cross.. if you do not have an answer then just dont answer
So Mark did the Father impregnate Mary?
Check out the first chapter of the Reformed Old Testament Luke (the New Testament of Christians) for your answer.
I believe that the Catholics here have said all actions of the trinity are done by all three.. there is no individual acts or jobs within the trinity ..so you have to live with that .. Did God the Father and Jesus the son impregnate Mary ?
lol.
frustrating I do think..LOL
His posts are crude, arrogant and ignorant.
Not a Godly fusion.
More like combustible.
The truth does not depend upon any belief, it is the truth. However, the fact is that the number of true Reformed believers are declining rapidly in the United States and even more rapidly in the rest of the world. Is PCUSA Reformed? No. Is the Anglican Church Reformed? No. Where are the Puritans?
We have established that there are more Catholics than Protestants in Switzerland. Now we see the Pope collecting what remains of Christianity in Britain back into the Church. That is the truth. The Truth that Jesus Christ gave to us nearly 2000 years ago and has been passed down to us through the Apostles.
Many are called but few are chosen Mark, the crowd yelled crucify Him.. So even if Dr E and I meet alone in a phone booth Christ will be there..
I see that you have self identified yet again. Maybe Christ will be there to watch the show with beer and popcorn and a lounge chair. Will there be a pentagram in your phone booth?
The three of us will be a crowd.
No doubt. I see that you are presuming for the Lord once again.
Rom 11:5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
And you have self identified as one of the remnant. The arrogance of the children of the Reformation do not sit well with the Beatitudes.
Catholics do not even know what the beatitudes even teach, so I would be surprised if you did Mark
When they submit a list of church fathers in response to your question, please ping me.
AMEN!
Rome just makes stuff up.
Wickedness is in the midst thereof: deceit and guile depart not from her streets." -- Psalm 55:10-11 "Day and night they go about it upon the walls thereof: mischief also and sorrow are in the midst of it.
That first part is Patripassianism. Divide the Persons, not the Substance. I think I see where you're going with this, but in the process you're dividing the Substance. When God acts GOD acts. God died on the cross, God was born of the Virgin Mary. To say (as someone wrote earlier) "The Holy Ghost can not do X" or "The 'job' of the Son is Y" admits of three Gods doing different things with different minds. That's tritheism. God creates, God saves, God acts.
I really didn't want to get into this when it showed up last night and I really don't want to get into it now. I was under the impression that Calvinism was solid in this area, go consult Calvin on this because surely his Trinitarian theology isn't that messed up.
But... this business of what happened on the Cross... Jesus Christ died because His body ceased to function due to the separation of His soul from His body. He suffered in His humanity but Divinity can't suffer. But to say "God died" doesn't mean God ceased to exist... and that's what it looks like you're driving at and for the life of me I can't understand why.
“Catholics do not even know what the (sic) beatitudes even teach.”
“...so I would be surprised if you did Mark.”
You have no way of giving credibility to the first statement.
It’s just a broad-brush personal opinion.
The second comment is uncalled for and rude.
But the grace of God comes only through faith in, for and by Jesus Christ.
"Whatsoever is not of faith is sin." -- Romans 14:23
In preaching that all religions are valid, and denying a belief in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, Mother Teresa did not "show herself to be approved."
"And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him" -- Colossians 3:17
The sentence doesn't parse. I don't even understand what you're trying to say there. I tried to follow that particular exchange all the way back and that didn't shed any light on your point. All I noticed was that it looked like you were saying the account of Elijah's assumption into Heaven was apocryphal.
Fact doesn’t matter anymore. This is like watching the network news. Occasionally they are correct.
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