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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief

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To: Dr. Eckleburg

“When a person discards the truth, all lies look more appealing.”

Too bad you have discarded the truth of Mother Teresa’s ministry in the context of the following:

Matthew 25:31-46
The Judgment
31 “But when the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the angels with Him, then He will sit on His glorious throne.
32 “All the nations will be gathered before Him; and He will separate them from one another, as the shepherd separates the sheep from the goats;
33 and He will put the sheep on His right, and the goats on the left.
34 “Then the King will say to those on His right, ‘Come, you who are blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.
35 ‘For I was hungry, and you gave Me something to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me something to drink; I was a stranger, and you invited Me in;
36 “I was naked, and you clothed Me; I was sick, and you visited Me; I was in prison, and you came to Me.’
37 “Then the righteous will answer Him, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry, and feed You, or thirsty, and give You something to drink?
38 ‘And when did we see You a stranger, and invite You in, or naked, and clothe You?
39 ‘When did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?’
40 “The King will answer and say to them, ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of these brothers of Mine, even the least of them, you did it to Me.’
41 “Then He will also say to those on His left, ‘Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels;
42 for I was hungry, and you gave Me nothing to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me nothing to drink;
43 I was a stranger, and you did not invite Me in; naked, and you did not clothe Me; sick, and in prison, and you did not visit Me.’
44 “Then they themselves also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not take care of You?’
45 “Then He will answer them, ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’
46 “These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”


7,581 posted on 09/29/2010 1:00:38 PM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: OLD REGGIE
I'm confused?

I've noticed. And confused about whether you are confused. Meta-confused.

7,582 posted on 09/29/2010 1:00:50 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: kosta50
Another Paul original. The Sinless one was made sin! Goodness. Jesus never said the Father made him sin for us

All of us like sheep have gone astray, each of us has turned to his own way; but the LORD has caused the iniquity of us all to fall on Him. Isaiah 53:6

For Christ also died for sins once for all, the just for the unjust . . . 1 Peter 3:18

7,583 posted on 09/29/2010 1:02:46 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7; malkee
In your thought, what did the blood shed by Jesus do for men?

Why do you so often ask what others' personal thoughts and beliefs are? That always seems like a set up. It's not attractive, it's more like the inquisition.

7,584 posted on 09/29/2010 1:03:02 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Judith Anne
, I hope everyone gets to see how the Old Testament scripture was twisted, there.

I did not "twist" anything, I made no claim to the scripture. I posted it to show that the idea that there is a Queen of heaven is pagan in origin, nothing more

7,585 posted on 09/29/2010 1:06:39 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
"For Christ also died for sins once for all, the just for the unjust..."

Except for Mother Teresa. Her unforgivable sin was in making Calvinists look bad by her example of a life of beatitude.

7,586 posted on 09/29/2010 1:08:17 PM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: RnMomof7
One commonality I find among the Catholics I now personally and it seems true of the ones I know here is they are indifferent to the eternity of others..

Hello? It's called not being NOSY. What I find among the Reformers is that they think it is their bound duty to force others to follow their legalistic Pharisaic formula, yes formula! for salvation. Preach the word, according to the Great Commission, and unless someone ASks your opinion, stay out of it.

The Reformers' habit of correcting everyone who disagrees, as though they were the schoolmarms of the RF, and of "punishing" those who persist in disagreeing by expressing concern that they will go to hell, is just so Church Lady.

I find no good will in any of it, most particularly beating up, theologically speaking, on a little old DEAD nun who never did them any harm, but who went to the poorest of the poor in response to a vision and gave it her all. Disgusting!

7,587 posted on 09/29/2010 1:11:07 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: RnMomof7

Oh, is the Woman in Revelations pagan in origin? Perhaps with your “knowledge” you can inform us.


7,588 posted on 09/29/2010 1:12:43 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: stfassisi
From Blessed Therese Of Avila ""Trials help us detach ourselves from the earth; they make us look higher than this world. Here below nothing can satisfy us. One cannot enjoy a moment's rest save in constant readiness to do the will of God."

Trying to prove one person had faith by comparing her to another person that might not even be saved , is not an answer . Teresa was a "mystic" we could in some ways compare her to the eastern mystics of her time and now..The Benny Hinn of the Carmelites she had visions and out of body experiences .

Today if someone recounted what she said they would be locked up in a padded room

Jesus or the apostles never taught mystic experiences as a legitimate form of prayer. They never modeled out of body experiences so we need to ask are we certain they were from God? What is the evidence?

7,589 posted on 09/29/2010 1:19:26 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Natural Law

*****Your problem is in your word choice. There are not three persons, there are three hypostases. This is akin to describing the three aspects of time; past, present, and future, or the three dimensions of an object. Each are unique, but wholly a part of the Ousia. *****

Even though the Three Persons are One God, yet they are distinct: for the Father has no origin, He came from no one. But the Son is begotten, He comes from the Father alone. The Holy Spirit comes or proceeds from both the Father and the Son. These different relations of origin tell us there are three distinct Persons, who have one and the same divine nature.

http://www.ewtn.com/faith/teachings/GODA22.htm


7,590 posted on 09/29/2010 1:25:55 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Natural Law
So now you are admitting that Catholicism has proof texts?

Of course..the entire Catechism is nothing but out of context proof texts..

7,591 posted on 09/29/2010 1:28:38 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Natural Law; Dr. Eckleburg
"Oh, there are many more deceits and errors in Rome than three."

Yeah, its a dirty city with a lot of crime and Protestants. I prefer Vatican City.

Are you young enough to join the Vatican Boys Choir? Don't worry, they no longer remove your "boyhood".

Secondly, you could always get on the waiting list to be a Swiss Guard.

Bon voyage!

7,592 posted on 09/29/2010 1:30:22 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: Judith Anne; Jaded
I’ve heard Church of God parishioners say it. Assembly of God. Church of Christ.

All of them use the same Gospel quote to “prove” Christ cast His Mother aside. They even use the one from the wedding at Cana, “Woman, what have I to do with thee?” without understanding the deep respect and love Christ showed to her.

Makes me sick. These are old women who wouldn’t stand for anyone treating them with less than the homage due a queen, yet they deny anything loving shown to Mary as though Mary were a tramp and we were idolators.

Oh don't associate with those mean people. You are much to sweet, loving, and kind to put up with that kind of stuff.

7,593 posted on 09/29/2010 1:35:30 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: Judith Anne

It is sad when someone can not understand the word of God

1Cr 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.


7,594 posted on 09/29/2010 1:35:44 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Natural Law
It is a bit flattering that the Catholic Church is always held to a higher standard than Protestant churches by the anti-Catholics. It affirms a subliminal acknowledgment of the superiority of the Catholic Church and its clergy as reflected in Luke 12:48;

LOL LOL LOL You have the illegitimate children of popes becoming popes, you have priest sodomizing little boys, priests having affairs with married women or nuns in their parishes,and you want to claim the high ground? You live in a flood zone my friend

7,595 posted on 09/29/2010 1:39:31 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: MarkBsnr
We could concentrate more on the topic at hand, which is a fabricated smear of the Church, and the Pope.

Enlighten me.

This entire thread is an attempt at enlightenment. Some of the posters here have done an admirable job at doing so.

Oh I see. You were just talking because you like to hear your own voice.

7,596 posted on 09/29/2010 1:41:51 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: Natural Law; Dr. Eckleburg
Luke 9:60

Jesus said unto him, Let the dead bury their dead: but go thou and preach the kingdom of God.

7,597 posted on 09/29/2010 1:42:47 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Natural Law
MOther Teresa was not indifferent to anyone's eternity. There is far more to the Word of God than is found in the written Scripture and far more means to spread the Word than the spewing of out of contect Scripture. Just because some French shyster reduced God to a manipulable document, devoid of Beatitude does not mean the whole world agrees or acts accordingly.

In her book, Life in the Spirit: Reflections, Meditations and Prayers, she says:

“We never try to convert those who receive [aid from Missionaries of Charity] to Christianity but in our work we bear witness to the love of God’s presence and if Catholics, Protestants, Buddhists, or agnostics become for this better men — simply better — we will be satisfied. It matters to the individual what church he belongs to. If that individual thinks and believes that this is the only way to God for her or him, this is the way God comes into their life — his life. If he does not know any other way and if he has no doubt so that he does not need to search then this is his way to salvation.” (Pages 81-82)

No concern for their eternity

7,598 posted on 09/29/2010 1:46:20 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: OLD REGGIE
"Bon voyage!

I've been to Rome and Vatican City. I prefer Vatican City. Been to Geneva too. Did you know its predominantly Catholic now? The Swiss have an obsession with cleaning up messes.

7,599 posted on 09/29/2010 1:53:06 PM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: MarkBsnr; Dr. Eckleburg
If Enoch and Elijah were assumed into Heaven, then I suppose that there are.

Enoch? Maybe, maybe not. Elijah? Apocrypha. Nuff said.

In any event these men preceded Jesus on this earth. There is no record of any person, with the exception of Jesus, being raised during His time on this earth nor yet raised because He has not yet returned!

7,600 posted on 09/29/2010 1:54:20 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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