Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]
Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
“When a person discards the truth, all lies look more appealing.”
Too bad you have discarded the truth of Mother Teresa’s ministry in the context of the following:
Matthew 25:31-46
The Judgment
31 “But when the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the angels with Him, then He will sit on His glorious throne.
32 “All the nations will be gathered before Him; and He will separate them from one another, as the shepherd separates the sheep from the goats;
33 and He will put the sheep on His right, and the goats on the left.
34 “Then the King will say to those on His right, ‘Come, you who are blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.
35 ‘For I was hungry, and you gave Me something to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me something to drink; I was a stranger, and you invited Me in;
36 “I was naked, and you clothed Me; I was sick, and you visited Me; I was in prison, and you came to Me.’
37 “Then the righteous will answer Him, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry, and feed You, or thirsty, and give You something to drink?
38 ‘And when did we see You a stranger, and invite You in, or naked, and clothe You?
39 ‘When did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?’
40 “The King will answer and say to them, ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of these brothers of Mine, even the least of them, you did it to Me.’
41 “Then He will also say to those on His left, ‘Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels;
42 for I was hungry, and you gave Me nothing to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me nothing to drink;
43 I was a stranger, and you did not invite Me in; naked, and you did not clothe Me; sick, and in prison, and you did not visit Me.’
44 “Then they themselves also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not take care of You?’
45 “Then He will answer them, ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’
46 “These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”
I've noticed. And confused about whether you are confused. Meta-confused.
All of us like sheep have gone astray, each of us has turned to his own way; but the LORD has caused the iniquity of us all to fall on Him. Isaiah 53:6
For Christ also died for sins once for all, the just for the unjust . . . 1 Peter 3:18
Why do you so often ask what others' personal thoughts and beliefs are? That always seems like a set up. It's not attractive, it's more like the inquisition.
I did not "twist" anything, I made no claim to the scripture. I posted it to show that the idea that there is a Queen of heaven is pagan in origin, nothing more
Except for Mother Teresa. Her unforgivable sin was in making Calvinists look bad by her example of a life of beatitude.
Hello? It's called not being NOSY. What I find among the Reformers is that they think it is their bound duty to force others to follow their legalistic Pharisaic formula, yes formula! for salvation. Preach the word, according to the Great Commission, and unless someone ASks your opinion, stay out of it.
The Reformers' habit of correcting everyone who disagrees, as though they were the schoolmarms of the RF, and of "punishing" those who persist in disagreeing by expressing concern that they will go to hell, is just so Church Lady.
I find no good will in any of it, most particularly beating up, theologically speaking, on a little old DEAD nun who never did them any harm, but who went to the poorest of the poor in response to a vision and gave it her all. Disgusting!
Oh, is the Woman in Revelations pagan in origin? Perhaps with your “knowledge” you can inform us.
Trying to prove one person had faith by comparing her to another person that might not even be saved , is not an answer . Teresa was a "mystic" we could in some ways compare her to the eastern mystics of her time and now..The Benny Hinn of the Carmelites she had visions and out of body experiences .
Today if someone recounted what she said they would be locked up in a padded room
Jesus or the apostles never taught mystic experiences as a legitimate form of prayer. They never modeled out of body experiences so we need to ask are we certain they were from God? What is the evidence?
*****Your problem is in your word choice. There are not three persons, there are three hypostases. This is akin to describing the three aspects of time; past, present, and future, or the three dimensions of an object. Each are unique, but wholly a part of the Ousia. *****
Even though the Three Persons are One God, yet they are distinct: for the Father has no origin, He came from no one. But the Son is begotten, He comes from the Father alone. The Holy Spirit comes or proceeds from both the Father and the Son. These different relations of origin tell us there are three distinct Persons, who have one and the same divine nature.
http://www.ewtn.com/faith/teachings/GODA22.htm
Of course..the entire Catechism is nothing but out of context proof texts..
Are you young enough to join the Vatican Boys Choir? Don't worry, they no longer remove your "boyhood".
Secondly, you could always get on the waiting list to be a Swiss Guard.
Bon voyage!
Oh don't associate with those mean people. You are much to sweet, loving, and kind to put up with that kind of stuff.
It is sad when someone can not understand the word of God
1Cr 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.
LOL LOL LOL You have the illegitimate children of popes becoming popes, you have priest sodomizing little boys, priests having affairs with married women or nuns in their parishes,and you want to claim the high ground? You live in a flood zone my friend
Oh I see. You were just talking because you like to hear your own voice.
Jesus said unto him, Let the dead bury their dead: but go thou and preach the kingdom of God.
In her book, Life in the Spirit: Reflections, Meditations and Prayers, she says:
We never try to convert those who receive [aid from Missionaries of Charity] to Christianity but in our work we bear witness to the love of Gods presence and if Catholics, Protestants, Buddhists, or agnostics become for this better men simply better we will be satisfied. It matters to the individual what church he belongs to. If that individual thinks and believes that this is the only way to God for her or him, this is the way God comes into their life his life. If he does not know any other way and if he has no doubt so that he does not need to search then this is his way to salvation. (Pages 81-82)
No concern for their eternity
I've been to Rome and Vatican City. I prefer Vatican City. Been to Geneva too. Did you know its predominantly Catholic now? The Swiss have an obsession with cleaning up messes.
Enoch? Maybe, maybe not. Elijah? Apocrypha. Nuff said.
In any event these men preceded Jesus on this earth. There is no record of any person, with the exception of Jesus, being raised during His time on this earth nor yet raised because He has not yet returned!
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