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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]

Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)


TOPICS: Activism; Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
;ing to 7422

Pslm 22:3 is about loss of faith.

7,481 posted on 09/28/2010 9:58:45 PM PDT by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
You continue to post chunks of Scripture which pertain to what? What point are you making? What concept are these verses supposedly re-enforcing?

Each post has a point, or reference to a point. I'm sorry if your unfamiliarity to Gospel Scripture actually confuses you into thinking that my commentary is actually Scripture, but if you look, it is in there. May God direct the Reformed into actually reading the Gospels. May He actually call them back into Christian life.

The United Kingdom has turned a corner and is back on its way to Christianity. Can the Reformed say the same thing?

7,482 posted on 09/28/2010 9:59:33 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr
We've been over this today. Keep up.

The verse is...

" For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it."

Do you honestly believe Christ is advocating castration?

Or is He urging compassion for those who were either born deformed or injured by other men such as those young boys Rome castrated for its cathedral choirs?

Rome always manages to rationalize evil and call it good.

7,483 posted on 09/28/2010 9:59:43 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: D-fendr
Don't want no dank monastic's prayer anyway it seems.

Perhaps God may influence the Reformed to become Christian. We must all pray for that.

7,484 posted on 09/28/2010 10:01:02 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr
lol. fifty thousands Roman Catholics is not "turning a corner."

The church of Rome is decreasing in Britain, not increasing.

Progress.

7,485 posted on 09/28/2010 10:01:08 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: kosta50

Read the link.


7,486 posted on 09/28/2010 10:02:03 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; kosta50
As much as it may pain some to admit, the doctrine of the Trinity was founded on Scripture.

You guys have tried before and failed miserably. The Trinitarian formula cannot be proven Scripturally. There are the names, but not the formula. The most that can be proven Scripturally is a subordinationalist theology that some of the Reformed's nuttier allies believe in.

7,487 posted on 09/28/2010 10:04:23 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: stfassisi
Mother Teresa continued to love others resisting her trials of faith.

She did not "resist her trials of faith." She succumbed to them. She disbelieved. She lost her faith.

7,488 posted on 09/28/2010 10:04:53 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: D-fendr

No, I pity them.


7,489 posted on 09/28/2010 10:05:38 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

You just referenced them on the doctrine of the Holy Trinity.

Pity?


7,490 posted on 09/28/2010 10:06:46 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"I'm quoting Mother Teresa who was presented here as a model of Christian perfection."

Perfection only exists in God who is infinitely perfect. Mother Teresa is to be appreciated, emulated, loved and venerated. She will be recognized by the Church as a role model. Perhaps like St. Jude, Mother Teresa will be named a Patron Saint of lost causes and despair.

7,491 posted on 09/28/2010 10:08:59 PM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: kosta50; MarkBsnr
Nowhere in Scripture does it say that Jesus will be Judged in our place. Nowhere
Exactly.

Oh yeah? Does this count?

2 Corinthians 5:21
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

7,492 posted on 09/28/2010 10:12:21 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
We've been over this today. Keep up.

Certainly I have, but I do not take or eschew action from the likes of you.

The verse is...

" For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it."

Do you honestly believe Christ is advocating castration?

Did I ever say castration? I said celibacy. And yes, I believe that Christ advocates celibacy for those who are able to receive it in the service of Almighty God. Those are the verses. How can you deny them?

Rome always manages to rationalize evil and call it good.

Isaiah 5: 20 Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil, who change darkness into light, and light into darkness, who change bitter into sweet, and sweet into bitter! 21 Woe to those who are wise in their own sight, and prudent in their own esteem!

Woe to the Reformed, smug and self-absorbed and preaching to all that they are the chosen ones, going on that chosen limousine ride and sneering at everyone else that they pronounce are going to hell. How does it feel passing judgement to hell on other human beings? Evil? Good? Let the Reformed call Mother Teresa for hell and let them say that Machen is predestined for salvation. I have an idea where Las Vegas bookmakers would go, based upon the Gospel of Jesus Christ and not the musings of Machen or the claptrap of Calvin.

7,493 posted on 09/28/2010 10:15:15 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: boatbums
Oh yeah? Does this count?

No. We are still be Judged by our deeds. According to Jesus, Peter, Paul, John and James.

7,494 posted on 09/28/2010 10:17:02 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"She did not "resist her trials of faith." She succumbed to them. She disbelieved. She lost her faith."

Mother Teresa's faith was challenged, but she never lost it or walked away from her mission.

Your comments are an example of a reprehensible and irresponsible aspect of the Religion Forum. We are barred from any comment that would suggest we are "reading the minds" of another Freeper, but are completely free to read the mind of a saintly woman who is no longer able to defend herself.

7,495 posted on 09/28/2010 10:17:28 PM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
lol. fifty thousands Roman Catholics is not "turning a corner."

What does "fifty thousands Roman Catholics is not "turning a corner"" mean?

The church of Rome is decreasing in Britain, not increasing.

The Pope just got there. How's the phone booth redecoration coming?

7,496 posted on 09/28/2010 10:19:39 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Natural Law
Mother Teresa's faith was challenged, but she never lost it or walked away from her mission.

That's not what she wrote. Days ago I posted many excerpts from her book of letters. Find them if you're interested in the truth.

7,497 posted on 09/28/2010 10:34:21 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: D-fendr

Church fathers does not equate to monastics.

Try again.


7,498 posted on 09/28/2010 10:35:44 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: MarkBsnr
Did I ever say castration? I said celibacy.

We're not discussing your words; we're discussing Christ's words. And Christ is speaking of eunuchs, as seen in the verse in question which I posted.

So do you think Christ is advocating castration as eunuchs are castrated?

7,499 posted on 09/28/2010 10:38:44 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Natural Law
Mother Teresa is to be appreciated, emulated, loved and venerated. She will be recognized by the Church as a role model. Perhaps like St. Jude, Mother Teresa will be named a Patron Saint of lost causes and despair.

That is pathetic, but points to the vapidity of Rome's beliefs.

Mother Teresa did not believe in Jesus Christ, but she is a "role model" for Roman Catholics.

Lost cause, indeed.

7,500 posted on 09/28/2010 10:40:35 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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