Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
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Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
7~)
Long ago I mentioned there was a point to monasteries centuries ago. Before the printing press, bibles were copied and that is good.
What do you think is the necessity for monasteries today (since this discussion began with the contemporary, Mother Teresa?)
Beats me.
Do you know how many of your posts are founded on the "mistranslation of Greek?"
You've told us dozens of times you don't believe the Bible, so what difference does Greek make if even the Greek is predicated on error?
So only in the case of castration or deformity from birth?
But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given. For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.
What does "made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake" mean?
There are several translations that render it:
others have renounced marriage because of the kingdom of heaven
or
some choose not to marry for the sake of the Kingdom of Heaven
or
Still others are celibate because they have made themselves that way for the sake of the kingdom of heaven
or
Still others have decided to be celibate because of the kingdom of heaven
Origen took it literally and castrated himself.
Funnily enough there's something called the "Geneva Study Bible" that has a footnote "Who abstain from marriage, and live as celibates through the gift of God."
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
Very much so,
What's faith got to do with it? Trinity is a concept which, evidently, even the faithful have toruble with.
Repeating your error only makes your error more obvious.
The majority of your post is self-evident statements found in Scripture which no one is arguing against.
Rome preaches salvation by men's own good works which shows Rome doesn't understand the words of Scripture.
Men are not saved by their own righteousness, but by the righteousness of Christ freely imputed to them.
And upon that, men are judged. Thank God.
While the faithful may not understand the Trinity completely, without faith all understanding is less than useless regarding God and Christ and salvation.
As Paul said, "whatsoever is not of faith is sin."
Exactly.
I'm about 1/3 of the way through "Come Be My Light" and don't at all agree with your presumptions and conclusions that Mother Teresa did not believe in Jesus. She confesses to a very personal relationship and states several times that He called her to her mission.
What you claim as doubt and disbelief I see only as despair. For the people she ministered to she carried the weight of the world. She literally felt their pain and forsakeness. Her confessions were not unlike the cry of "Eloi, Eloi, lama sabach-thani?" She lost her faith to the same extent Jesus lost His.
Rome would have to completely ignore Christ's instructions about marriage and about God creating men and women from before eternity and about His comparison of marriage to Himself and His church in order to finagle some kind of perverse preference for a monastic, fruitless, cloistered life.
Of course this isn't the first time Rome has ignored Scripture and Christ's teachings.
Origin's error is not one to be emulated, but pitied.
Unless you like that sort of thing.
Certainly. Just came across a little gem:
Fatalism is the view that people cannot do anything other than what fate has determined that they will do.
Calvinism is the view that people cannot do anything other than what God has determined that they will do.
The main difference is the name that they give to their deity.
Rife? Rife? Statistics prove that the percentage of Catholic priests with problems is significantly below that of Protestants and Jews. There are more perverts of all types in the minuscule OPC than in the Catholic Church.
Is this in Klingon? I am sorry, pictorical, hyeroglyphic writing is alien to me.
Repeating your error only makes your error more obvious.
Not my error. You have repeatedly posted it - the last time a few minutes ago.
The majority of your post is self-evident statements found in Scripture which no one is arguing against.
You just did in our last exchange.
Rome preaches salvation by men's own good works which shows Rome doesn't understand the words of Scripture.
Negative. Untrue. It was untrue the first time you said it and it will be untrue for as long as you continue. The Catholic Church does not preach it.
I have given you and will continue to give you the words of Jesus (Gospels) and the words of the rest of the New Testament (Paul, Peter, John and James) which tell us explicitly what every man is Judged on. Do you wish to be reminded yet again?
God tells us not to despair. To despair means we do not trust Him.
For which cause we faint not; but though our outward man perish, yet the inward man is renewed day by day." -- 2 Corinthians 4:8,16 "We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair...
She lost her faith to the same extent Jesus lost His.
Wow. What a wicked statement. Repent of it.
Does that mean that the Latin Vulgate, which the Roman Catholic church uses and has used, for it’s translations of the Bible are inadequate?
The Protestant Bibles, which the Catholics seem to be so quick to condemn, are translations of the oldest and most reliable manuscripts, not translations of a translation, being English from Latin from Greek/Hebrew.
No, it’s 8~) with a typo; a 7 for an 8.
In the spirit of things. 8~)
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