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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]

Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)


TOPICS: Activism; Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: individualliberty
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To: wmfights

lol. Amen.


7,301 posted on 09/28/2010 5:01:34 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Judith Anne; Dr. Eckleburg; 1000 silverlings
The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are one, the Trinity. It is arrogant to say that God cannot do something the Holy Spirit can, or that the Holy Spirit is not Christ, because they are One.

They are 3 SEPARATE persons in ONE God

They are INDIVIDUALS each with a DIFFERENT role in the Godhead

READ YOUR BIBLE

7,302 posted on 09/28/2010 5:02:27 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Read the Bible, Judith. Learn the truth.

As my grandson says to his sister, "You are not the boss of me."

Perhaps you can quote me chapter and verse, from Paul, even, where this is wrong:

The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are one, the Trinity. It is arrogant to say that God cannot do something the Holy Spirit can, or that the Holy Spirit is not Christ, because they are One. Your delineation of their “duties” is just ridiculous

7,303 posted on 09/28/2010 5:03:06 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: 1000 silverlings
In their muddled Mary theology, Mary has to have some say in the plan of salvation for her to be in their exalted position of her. Mary is no different from Sarah, or from Leah, who gave birth to Judah, and wasn't even Jacob's first choice as wife. No one exalts any of them, or Rachel,(considered to be the mother of the Jewish people) in any other role other than a fine example of Jewish womanhood. Jesus only ever referred to her as *woman* and there is no record of her ever complaining or holding any other office.

Amen. Worth repeating.

7,304 posted on 09/28/2010 5:03:14 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"You believe Christ was in the wilderness for 40 days because he enjoyed the monastic life?"

That wasn't what I said, pay attention. I asked why Christ spent time in the solitude and contemplative prayer. Your answer was incomplete. Before I move on, is there anyother aspects of christ's life that should NOT be enmulated?

"Anything to defend the indefensible priestcraft."

Monks and brothers are not priests. If you don't have that level of understanding of monasticism you have no business discussing, let alone criticizing it.

"Jesus spent 40 days of fasting and prayer to God in the wilderness to consecrate His ministry."

Scripture only states that he went to be tempted. Consecration is speculative and extra scriptural.

"He did not remain in the wilderness."

Do you believe monastics enter the monastery with the intention of dying there?

7,305 posted on 09/28/2010 5:04:03 PM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: D-fendr

Sorry, but I answer questions to my satisfaction.

It usually takes three answers to satisfy a Roman Catholic, and even then, as you are doing now, it’s not enough.

But it is.


7,306 posted on 09/28/2010 5:05:00 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Judith Anne; Dr. Eckleburg
And Scripture tells us Christ said, "I and the Father are One." "Whosoever hath seen me, hath seen the Father."

The heresy of Modalism denies the individual personhood of the 3 PERSONS of the trinity THREE SEPARATE PERSONS YET ONE..

7,307 posted on 09/28/2010 5:05:13 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Judith Anne
"Read the Bible, Judith. Learn the truth."

Because Protestants rely only on a redacted version of Scripture and not at all on Apostolic Tradition they are literally playing with half a deck. It is like discussing sunsets with the color blind.

7,308 posted on 09/28/2010 5:06:21 PM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: RnMomof7
I feel so grieved for them E, the foundation of Rome is sand.

Amen. From Christ's own lips. And still they look elsewhere.

7,309 posted on 09/28/2010 5:07:14 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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Yeah. Mary was only the mother of Jesus’s human nature. Right?


7,310 posted on 09/28/2010 5:07:24 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: RnMomof7

lol.


7,311 posted on 09/28/2010 5:07:53 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Jaded
Yawn. Seriously.

Take a nap. It can only help.

7,312 posted on 09/28/2010 5:10:28 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Sorry, but I answer questions to my satisfaction.

Actually, you don't answer questions - to your satisfaction.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and believe you merely lost track.

7,313 posted on 09/28/2010 5:10:55 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: 1000 silverlings

lol. How do any of these RC has any time to post here when they’re so busy witnessing all that mayhem in Protestant pulpits?


7,314 posted on 09/28/2010 5:12:27 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Judith Anne; Dr. Eckleburg
The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are one, the Trinity. It is arrogant to say that God cannot do something the Holy Spirit can, or that the Holy Spirit is not Christ, because they are One.

Your delineation of their “duties” is just ridiculous.

Exactly!Thank You! This thread is now completely idiotic with some of the idea's floating around by the modernists.

7,315 posted on 09/28/2010 5:12:38 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: Quix; Dr. Eckleburg

lol, it’s like we’ve met the Forest Gump of bad theology, once, twice, three times removed


7,316 posted on 09/28/2010 5:14:05 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: MarkBsnr

Coven is in top form this evening.


7,317 posted on 09/28/2010 5:14:08 PM PDT by Jaded (I realized that after Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says W T F)
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To: RnMomof7
we try to point out the lousy theology that leads to mariology, and that may sound like mocking to one in the grips of the false Mary that the Catholic church has designed

We do give her the respect she is due as a sister in Christ, a sinner saved by Gods grace and a faithful servant of God...she is a false idol

AMEN!

7,318 posted on 09/28/2010 5:14:33 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: 1000 silverlings
Anecdotal evil baptist ping, no doubt somewhere in the mid-west or southern states, possibly swamp peoples

lol.

Or democrats.

7,319 posted on 09/28/2010 5:16:32 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Judith Anne
As my grandson says to his sister, "You are not the boss of me."

But God is Judith, and He left you a love letter so that you would know Him


7,320 posted on 09/28/2010 5:16:39 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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