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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]

Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)


TOPICS: Activism; Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Yes, we agree. You are wrong.

Sure thing, protestants are waaaaaaaaay more arrogant than I thought they could be.

7,281 posted on 09/28/2010 4:47:32 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

ABSOLUTELY INDEED.

INVESTING UNTRUE MYSTICAL NONSENSE IN ANYONE OR ANYTHING IS SPIRITUALLY HAZARDOUS TO THE MAX.


7,282 posted on 09/28/2010 4:47:38 PM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
There doesn't seem to be any restraint on RCs stealing God's glory and giving it to a creature.

There doesn't seem to be any restraint on OPCs stealing God's glory and giving it to themselves.

7,283 posted on 09/28/2010 4:49:03 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Judith Anne; 1000 silverlings; RnMomof7
Is Christ God? Did Christ choose you?

God, the Father, elects.

God, Jesus Christ, the Son, redeems.

God, the Holy Spirit, sanctifies.

God elects. God chooses whom to redeem by His Son.

No wonder RCs can give away the glory of the Trinity to a supposed fourth member. They don't know the Trinity.

7,284 posted on 09/28/2010 4:50:27 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
In their muddled Mary theology, Mary has to have some say in the plan of salvation for her to be in their exalted position of her.

Mary is no different from Sarah, or from Leah, who gave birth to Judah, and wasn't even Jacob's first choice as wife. No one exalts any of them, or Rachel,(considered to be the mother of the Jewish people) in any other role other than a fine example of Jewish womanhood. Jesus only ever referred to her as *woman* and there is no record of her ever complaining or holding any other office.

7,285 posted on 09/28/2010 4:50:58 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Quix

EXCEPT OF COURSE DEMON FALLEN ANGELS IN BIOENGINEERED BODIES USING HOLOGRAMS TO APPEAR TO BE APPARITIONS OF MARY AND CLAIMING JESUS WAS ONE OF THEIR ILLUSIONS.

that’s for real.


7,286 posted on 09/28/2010 4:51:03 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: 1000 silverlings; Jaded; Dr. Eckleburg; wmfights; Gamecock; fortheDeclaration
J: I knew a Fundamentalist Baptist who would say “Mary was just some female. If she hadn’t done it, God would have picked a different bimbo”. I could but stare

That must have been me, except I didn't use those pejoratives. I guess they had to be added to try and make goddess worship okay.

The actual comment was Mary was just a good woman. If she had the free will to say no and had done so God would have choosen another.

7,287 posted on 09/28/2010 4:51:28 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: Natural Law; Dr. Eckleburg; 1000 silverlings
Why then did Jesus spend 40 days and 40 nights in the desert?

Ohh Mercy

Scripture tells us 2 things.. 1) That Christ was the second Adam and 2) that He was tempted as we are

Please look at the 40 days

In them Christ endured the exact temptations that Adam did

The Holy Spirit led Christ to the wilderness to be tempted

Think back to the fall

Gen 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree [was] good for food,[Lust of the flresh}
and that it [was] pleasant to the eyes, {lust of the eyes]
and a tree to be desired to make [one] wise,{ pride of life]
she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

Please now look at the temptation of Jesus

Mat 4:2 And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred.
Mat 4:3 And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.

Lust of the Flesh

Mat 4:5 Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple,

Mat 4:6 And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in [their] hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.

Lust of the eyes

Mat 4:8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;
Mat 4:9 And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.

Pride of Life

1Jo 2:16 For all that [is] in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

7,288 posted on 09/28/2010 4:51:31 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: 1000 silverlings

hMMMMMM


7,289 posted on 09/28/2010 4:52:02 PM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: Judith Anne

Scripture says she was chosen by the Father


7,290 posted on 09/28/2010 4:53:22 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are one, the Trinity. It is arrogant to say that God cannot do something the Holy Spirit can, or that the Holy Spirit is not Christ, because they are One.

Your delineation of their “duties” is just ridiculous.


7,291 posted on 09/28/2010 4:54:04 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Clearly Roman Catholics misunderstand the Trinity and the office of each person of that Trinity.

I was just thing that , they sound like modalists

7,292 posted on 09/28/2010 4:54:42 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Judith Anne
There doesn't seem to be any restraint on OPCs stealing God's glory and giving it to themselves.

How do Presbyterians give God's glory to themselves? Presbyterians know they didn't earn their salvation. God gave it freely, according to His mercy.

If Presbyterians boast, they boast of the Lord and what He has done in their lives.

"But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance." -- Matthew 8:14

7,293 posted on 09/28/2010 4:55:22 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Judith Anne
There doesn't seem to be any restraint on OPCs stealing God's glory and giving it to themselves.

How do Presbyterians give God's glory to themselves? Presbyterians know they didn't earn their salvation. God gave it freely, according to His mercy.

If Presbyterians boast, they boast of the Lord and what He has done in their lives.

"But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance." -- Matthew 9:13

7,294 posted on 09/28/2010 4:55:57 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: RnMomof7
Scripture says she was chosen by the Father

And Scripture tells us Christ said, "I and the Father are One." "Whosoever hath seen me, hath seen the Father."

Or don't you believe the scripture?

7,295 posted on 09/28/2010 4:56:35 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Judith Anne
The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are one, the Trinity. It is arrogant to say that God cannot do something the Holy Spirit can, or that the Holy Spirit is not Christ, because they are One. Your delineation of their “duties” is just ridiculous

lol. Read the Bible, Judith. Learn the truth.

But your posts are excellent examples of how little Roman Catholics actually know of the Bible.

7,296 posted on 09/28/2010 4:57:50 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Judith Anne
There doesn't seem to be any restraint on OPCs stealing God's glory and giving it to themselves.

Actually this is a change of topic.. but in what way do Calvinists "steal glory from God"

7,297 posted on 09/28/2010 4:58:19 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Judith Anne
There doesn't seem to be any restraint on OPCs stealing God's glory and giving it to themselves.

Actually this is a change of topic.. but in what way do Calvinists "steal glory from God"

7,298 posted on 09/28/2010 4:58:34 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Well, I know ONE presbyterian who thinks she knows what the duties of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are, all separately.


7,299 posted on 09/28/2010 4:59:26 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: RnMomof7
Ohh Mercy

lol. They'll need it. 8~)

Great explanation of Christ's temptation, RnMom! Thanks.

7,300 posted on 09/28/2010 4:59:52 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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