Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]
Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
As expected.......
I disagree. When Catholics publicly repent and mourn one day a year, and protestants (and former Catholics) ridicule them, quote Holy Scripture inappropriately against them, and state that their repentance and mourning are invalid, then it is all the more an important public confession of love for Christ.
So, throwing oneself on a grenade to save the rest of the group is nothing, because it was done before men?
And giving up a Saturday evening out, to go to a nursing home and play music for the folks is doing works of righteousness publicly, but it's of no use because people see it, right?
And volunteering in a soup kitchen, peeling vegetables, washing tables and dishes, cooking and cleaning up after is invalid, because it's done publicly?
And the fact that St. Maximillian Kolbe gave up his life to save a Jewish man in a concentration camp is worthless, because all the prisoners and guards saw it, and the man he saved told others about his sacrifice, that was worthless, too?
How about blatant public hypocrisy, and pious remonstrance? What kind of reward is given for that? The congratulations of all the rest of the protties?
“We cannot long for something that is not intimately close to us ... Now we have this new understanding, this new window into her interior life, and for me this seems to be the most heroic,” he said.
This wouldn't be the first time Roman Catholics denied the written word. The poor woman said what she said. She was writing her intimate thoughts. She said she doubted God existed; she didn't believe in Christ; and she hadn't prayed in years. She was deflated and depressed by her unbelief which is a natural result of once having believed, and then casting that faith aside. The void is real.
Either "everything not of faith is sin," as Paul taught us, or it's not. Either we are to "bring into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ" or we aren't. Either we are to dedicate our life and work to Christ, or not. Either we believe in His name as Lord, King and Savior, to the saving of our souls, or we don't.
Initially I wondered how in the world Rome could have let this book be published. Even more strange is the fact it was compiled by the guy who's involved with her future beatification.
Then I realized Rome is just like any other political party -- get the bad news out first, on your own time schedule, early, so you can keep control of the debate.
And then hope the people buy the excuses.
Apparently that strategy has worked. There are still dozens of Roman Catholics on this forum completely oblivious to what the woman was telling them in her own words. Instead, they still maintain she possessed true faith when she tells us in her own words she definitely does not.
Proving once again RCs will believe anything Rome tells them, despite their own lying eyes.
Sadly, this exercise also illustrates that for Roman Catholics, faith in Christ is NOT the evidence of God's grace nor a requirement for our salvation. "Good works" are all that matter to the Roman Catholic. Thus, Rome can say with a straight face that muslims are saved just like Christians are saved - by their own labor. Christ's labor on the cross is tangential to salvation. It's a path, not the path.
Yeah, Mother Teresa would have served God better if she spent more time on her computer defending the reformation instead of so wasting so much time on charitable works.
You use the words of Scripture and your renewed mind to understand as best you can.
Rome does the same thing, but Rome says men can do this without God. Rome says men are inherently capable of understanding the things of God.
But as Paul tells us, the things of God are unknowable to the natural man, while they are truth and light to the spiritual man.
To the normal, objective reader that would be the first clue that you have completely misinterpreted or twisted her meanings.
Again, all you post is sarcasm without any evidence to back it up.
And if it stopped there, it would be remiss. But it continues...
I. It pleased God, in His eternal purpose, to choose and ordain the Lord Jesus, His only begotten Son, to be the Mediator between God and man,[1] the Prophet,[2] Priest,[3] and King,[4] the Head and Savior of His Church,[5] the Heir of all things,[6] and Judge of the world:[7] unto whom He did from all eternity give a people, to be His seed,[8] and to be by Him in time redeemed, called, justified, sanctified, and glorified.[9] II. The Son of God, the second person of the Trinity, being very and eternal God, of one substance and equal with the Father, did, when the fullness of time was come, take upon Him man's nature,[10] with all the essential properties, and common infirmities thereof, yet without sin;[11] being conceived by the power of the Holy Ghost, in the womb of the virgin Mary, of her substance.[12] So that two whole, perfect, and distinct natures, the Godhead and the manhood, were inseparably joined together in one person, without conversion, composition, or confusion.[13] Which person is very God, and very man, yet one Christ, the only Mediator between God and man.[14] III. The Lord Jesus, in His human nature thus united to the divine, was sanctified, and anointed with the Holy Spirit, above measure,[15] having in Him all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge;[16] in whom it pleased the Father that all fullness should dwell;[17] to the end that, being holy, harmless, undefiled, and full of grace and truth,[18] He might be thoroughly furnished to execute the office of a Mediator and Surety.[19] Which office He took not unto Himself, but was thereunto called by His Father,[20] who put all power and judgment into His hand, and gave Him commandment to execute the same.[21] IV. This office the Lord Jesus did most willingly undertake;[22] which that He might discharge, He was made under the law,[23] and did perfectly fulfil it;[24] endured most grievous torments immediately in His soul,[25] and most painful sufferings in His body;[26] was crucified, and died,[27] was buried, and remained under the power of death, yet saw no corruption.[28] On the third day He arose from the dead,[29] with the same body in which He suffered,[30] with which also he ascended into heaven, and there sits at the right hand of His Father,[31] making intercession,[32] and shall return, to judge men and angels, at the end of the world.[33] V. The Lord Jesus, by His perfect obedience, and sacrifice of Himself, which He through the eternal Spirit, once offered up unto God, has fully satisfied the justice of His Father;[34] and purchased, not only reconciliation, but an everlasting inheritance in the kingdom of heaven, for those whom the Father has given unto Him.[35] VI. Although the work of redemption was not actually wrought by Christ till after His incarnation, yet the virtue, efficacy, and benefits thereof were communicated unto the elect, in all ages successively from the beginning of the world, in and by those promises, types, and sacrifices, wherein He was revealed, and signified to be the seed of the woman which should bruise the serpent's head; and the Lamb slain from the beginning of the world; being yesterday and today the same, and forever.[36] VII. Christ, in the work of mediation, acts according to both natures, by each nature doing that which is proper to itself;[37] yet, by reason of the unity of the person, that which is proper to one nature is sometimes in Scripture attributed to the person denominated by the other nature.[38] VIII. To all those for whom Christ has purchased redemption, He does certainly and effectually apply and communicate the same;[39] making intercession for them,[40] and revealing unto them, in and by the word, the mysteries of salvation;[41] effectually persuading them by His Spirit to believe and obey, and governing their hearts by His word and Spirit;[42] overcoming all their enemies by His almighty power and wisdom, in such manner, and ways, as are most consonant to His wonderful and unsearchable dispensation.[43]
Of Christ the Mediator
Then he said to them, “Go your way. Eat the fat and drink sweet wine and send portions to anyone who has nothing ready, for this day is holy to our Lord. And do not be grieved, for the joy of the Lord is your strength.” —Nehemiah 8:10
Psalm 16:11
You make known to me the path of life; in your presence there is fullness of joy; at your right hand are pleasures forevermore.
Jeremiah 15:16
Your words were found, and I ate them, and your words became to me a joy and the delight of my heart, for I am called by your name, O Lord, God of hosts.
John 15:11
These things I have spoken to you, that my joy may be in you, and that your joy may be full.
Romans 5:11
More than that, we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation.
Philippians 2:1-2
2:1 So if there is any encouragement in Christ, any comfort from love, any participation in the Spirit, any affection and sympathy, complete my joy by being of the same mind, having the same love, being in full accord and of one mind.
Philippians 4:4
Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice.
— Colossians 1:11-14
May you be strengthened with all power, according to his glorious might, for all endurance and patience with joy, giving thanks to the Father, who has qualified you to share in the inheritance of the saints in light. He has delivered us from the domain of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of his beloved Son, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.
1 Peter 1:8
Though you have not seen him, you love him. Though you do not now see him, you believe in him and rejoice with joy that is inexpressible and filled with glory
Contrived interpretations, falsified images, confabulations, unsubstantiated pronouncements, threats and warnings, links to dubious and banned websites, and eisegesistic scripture do not constitute evidence. I won't stoop to using them, they are the tools of liars.
lol.
Prattle - 10
Evidence - 0
I wouldn’t have scored your prattle that high.
"Be not afraid; only believe." -- Mark 5:36
Thankfully, lurkers can read.
I'm counting on it.
Helloooo, Doc! I see natties back, maybe this thread will be fun for a while.
No, because I haven't read the book.
PS that would be stfassisi...
No need for apologies, sfa. I was simply making it known that my responses was not an approval of the interpretation she gave me, but simply an expression of gratitude for providing me with the link.
Personally, for someone who has been supposedly without faith (but obviously not without hope!) for 50 years (!), yet tirelssly working in the name of Christ, shows perseverance against all odds that puts every Christian I have known to shame (with me leading the list).
is there a reaosn why you are repeating yourself (i.e. 3 posts ago)?
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