I wasn't making this about any individual freepers. Too bad you lack the ability, civility and self control to do the same.
My heavens! That was personal. What in the world made you believe my remark was directed at any individual freeper?
Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]
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First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
Am I to assume the "list" of Saints is nothing but wallpaper?
No, why would you?
Perhaps because you seemingly know the "Saint Naming" process has been fraught with error and "politics".
I am going nowhere with the list of Saints. I believe it is fictional. Do you?
No, of course not, any more than you would consider a list of temporal court decisions to be fictional.
OK I'll strike "fictional". How about "potentially fraught with error"?
Enlighten me.
Oh wow Dr. E., you've been promoted frrom Catholic Hater to Christianity Hater.
Catholics are not afraid to preach Christ Crucified, Christ Risen and Christ Ascended. We are also not afraid to show the world that we acknowledge His death and descent to hell. We are not afraid to show the world that we understand that by His Sacrifice and Death, that man will also die, but with Him. And rise with Him. Ashes to ashes and dust to dust. We proclaim Your Death, Lord Jesus until You come in Glory.
That's pretty decent for standard, non-controvercial boilerplate.
"...by His Sacrifice and Death, that man will also die, but with Him. And rise with Him."
Any exceptions?
Judge not lest ye be judged. Mother Teresa is not to be judged by the likes of you and found wanting. She has been judged by God and is to be loved, emulated, and venerated. Of course she had doubts, she was after all human. In spite of her human frailties and doubts she never gave in to those doubts and daily gave herself to the work of God and those in need.
Just as true courage is doing what is right and needed in spite of fear, true faith is doing what is right and needed in spite of doubts. Every saint has a past and every sinner a future. Its not what we did yesterday that assures our salvation, it is what we do next.
The most damning of Mother Teresa's statements has been quoted below:
"Jesus has a very special love for you," she assured Van der Peet. "[But] as for me, the silence and the emptiness is so great, that I look and do not see, — Listen and do not hear — the tongue moves [in prayer] but does not speak ... I want you to pray for me — that I let Him have free hand."
We don't know what triggered Mother Teresa's despair, but it's not hard to guess. Her ministry in India was to care for the most wretched on earth, those forsaken by all others; the discarded, the destitute, the forgotten, the sick, and those dying without love or God. Please tell me which saints never had moments of doubt. Even Christ Himself anguished and doubted at Gethsemane. I will not pity Mother Teresa and will continue to look to Mother Teresa for inspiration and examples of Beatitude. Those things I will not to find in black hearted judgmental bloggers. The conditions in India and other similar locations still exist today. What are you doing about them?
The wearing of ashes and sackcloth is a long established Hebrew tradition of demonstrating mourning and repentance. I would have thought an accomplished Biblical scholar like yourself would have known that [sarc].
Some people's capacity to hate is limitless.
Some people's capacity to hate is limitless in addition to being too cowardly to address the object of their hate.
I wasn't making this about any individual freepers. Too bad you lack the ability, civility and self control to do the same.
ROTFLOL!!!
NL: The wearing of ashes and sackcloth is a long established Hebrew tradition of demonstrating mourning and repentance.
Thank you. Once again you have proven the criticism against Roman Catholicism (that it is a return to Judaic law-keeping) is correct and justified.
As we've seen dozens of times, Roman Catholics do not understand that verse or its context. We are most certainly to judge right from wrong according to the spiritual discernment given to us.
Mother Teresa is not to be judged by the likes of you and found wanting. She has been judged by God and is to be loved, emulated, and venerated.
The evidence of her own words denies your opinion. She is to be pitied because her own words tell us of her lack of faith, denial of God and Christ, and her emotional distress.
Not much to emulate or venerate there.
In spite of her human frailties and doubts she never gave in to those doubts and daily gave herself to the work of God and those in need.
Of course she "gave in to her doubts." She gave in to her doubts by denying Christ and God. If that's not "giving in to her doubts," nothing is.
You are missing the most important fact in Mother Teresa's life. She did good work, but she most certainly did NOT "daily gave herself to the work of God." She denied God. She did the work for her own satisfaction or because she had nothing else to do or because she felt moved by the plight of the less-fortunate, but she did not "give herself to the work of God."
Just as true courage is doing what is right and needed in spite of fear, true faith is doing what is right and needed in spite of doubts.
Read the Bible. "Everything not of faith is sin." While her work no doubt helped a lot of people, it is meaningless if it isn't done in the name of Christ.
Every saint has a past and every sinner a future. Its not what we did yesterday that assures our salvation, it is what we do next.
Amen. And what did Mother Teresa "do next?"
For over 40 years until she died she doubted God, denied Christ, refused to pray and generally was without faith.
That is not to be emulated or venerated or praised. She is to be pitied. Her only hope is that she was given faith before she died. And none of us will know whether was rescued or not.
"God is a Spirit, infinite, eternal, and unchangeable, in his being, wisdom, power, holiness, justice, goodness, and truth," as the Westminster Shorter Catechism reminds us. God is Creator of heaven and earth, all that is; all that was and all that shall be.
I find the Westminter Confession of Faith accurately conceptualizes God (Scriptural proofs at the link).
Chapter II
Of God, and of the Holy Trinity
II. God has all life,[25] glory,[26] goodness,[27] blessedness,[28] in and of Himself; and is alone in and unto Himself all-sufficient, not standing in need of any creatures which He has made,[29] nor deriving any glory from them,[30] but only manifesting His own glory in, by, unto, and upon them. He is the alone fountain of all being, of whom, through whom, and to whom are all things;[31] and has most sovereign dominion over them, to do by them, for them, or upon them whatsoever Himself pleases.[32] In His sight all things are open and manifest,[33] His knowledge is infinite, infallible, and independent upon the creature,[34] so as nothing is to Him contingent, or uncertain.[35] He is most holy in all His counsels, in all His works, and in all His commands.[36] To Him is due from angels and men, and every other creature, whatsoever worship, service, or obedience He is pleased to require of them.[37] III. In the unity of the Godhead there be three Persons of one substance, power, and eternity: God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost.[38] The Father is of none, neither begotten nor proceeding; the Son is eternally begotten of the Father; [39] the Holy Ghost eternally proceeding from the Father and the Son. [40]I. There is but one only,[1] living, and true God,[2] who is infinite in being and perfection,[3] a most pure spirit,[4] invisible,[5] without body, parts,[6] or passions;[7] immutable,[8] immense,[9] eternal,[10] incomprehensible,[11] almighty,[12] most wise,[13] most holy,[14] most free,[15] most absolute;[16] working all things according to the counsel of His own immutable and most righteous will,[17] for His own glory;[18] most loving,[19] gracious, merciful, long-suffering, abundant in goodness and truth, forgiving iniquity, transgression, and sin;[20] the rewarder of them that diligently seek Him;[21] and withal, most just, and terrible in His judgments,[22] hating all sin,[23] and who will by no means clear the guilty.[24]
And as the Heidelberg Confession states...
Faith is not a spiritual Prozac that permits the faithful to giddily step over the bodies of the dead and dying and never ask the purpose or reason for the suffering.
Even though enlightened by Him in whom it believes, faith is often lived in darkness and can be put to the test. The world we live in often seems very far from the one promised us by faith. Our experiences of evil and suffering, injustice and death, seem to contradict the Good News; they can shake our faith and become a temptation against it.
Saints are not those who never contemplate and doubt, they are those who overcome their doubts and reaffirm their faith. They trust in God when their human limitations and weaknesses are tested.
I will not pity Mother Teresa as I pity you. On any given day Mother Teresa gave more of herself, shared more Christianity and exhibited more beatitude before noon than you have in your entire life.
Those who can find so little charity in their lives that they can judge Mother Teresa are the ones deserving of pity. I will continue to love and venerate Mother Teresa.
Matthew 6:16-18 (King James Version)
16Moreover when ye fast, be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance: for they disfigure their faces, that they may appear unto men to fast. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
17But thou, when thou fastest, anoint thine head, and wash thy face;
18That thou appear not unto men to fast, but unto thy Father which is in secret: and thy Father, which seeth in secret, shall reward thee openly.
“”Thank you very much for the link, Dr. E. Much obliged.””
Here is a better explanation straight from Rev. Kolodiejchuk as well .
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,294395,00.html
Rev. Kolodiejchuk maintains that Mother Teresa did not suffer “a real doubt of faith,” but that, on the contrary, her agonizing demonstrates her faith in God’s reality.
“We cannot long for something that is not intimately close to us ... Now we have this new understanding, this new window into her interior life, and for me this seems to be the most heroic,” he said.
Mother Tersea lived out a life of unconditional love
Matthew 6: 1”Be careful not to do your ‘acts of righteousness’ before men, to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven.
2”So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. 3But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
5”And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. 6But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. 7And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.
Matthew 6: 16”When you fast, do not look somber as the hypocrites do, for they disfigure their faces to show men they are fasting. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. 17But when you fast, put oil on your head and wash your face, 18so that it will not be obvious to men that you are fasting, but only to your Father, who is unseen; and your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
Ah, the old liberal rhetoric accusation of *hater*.
Right out of the liberal crybaby play book.
Does Criticism of Homosexuality Prove Hate?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2595841/posts
The first line says it all. You can substitute *homosexuality* with *Catholicism* or *Mormonism*.
Either way, the perpetually offended always retreat to the accusation of *hate*.
Once a year, beginning the season of Lent, remembering, together as fellow worshippers, Christ’s death and our own death in Him, is not for the purpose of being honored by men.
If you think so, just look at all the negative comments here on the thread about it.
As a person who said she was raised Catholic, you must have heard the explanation for the ashes. If you choose, in spite of that, and in spite of reading the truth here, to condemn some for receiving and wearing ashes, that’s no one’s problem except yours.
Did God tell you that Himself?
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