Intended Catholic Dictatorship

Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

[OLD REGGIE]

Thanks, Mark. I confess that is very disheartening.

Well it should be. The abbreviated history "according to Mark" is as useful as an old Orphan Annie comic strip.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

God bless you, Dr. E. I, too, thought your “Good night” was sarcastic and 8th grade. A simple “Good night” seems somehow too kind and courteous for you, given your remarks on the thread.

Your needlessly contentious and rude remarks like the one last night and the one above are the norm for you these days and so they're not unexpected.

[OLD REGGIE]

Dominus Iesus still upholds vatican 1. We don;t deny the Holy Spirit blows where He wills. Thus a person saved is still saved through the Church in a mysterious relationship

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/r The Church is the “universal sacrament of salvation”,79 since, united always in a mysterious way to the Saviour Jesus Christ, her Head, and subordinated to him, she has, in God’s plan, an indispensable relationship with the salvation of every human being.80 For those who are not formally and visibly members of the Church, “salvation in Christ is accessible by virtue of a grace which, while having a mysterious relationship to the Church, does not make them formally part of the Church, but enlightens them in a way which is accommodated to their spiritual and material situation. This grace comes from Christ; it is the result of his sacrifice and is communicated by the Holy Spirit”;81 it has a relationship with the Church, which “according to the plan of the Father, has her origin in the mission of the Son and the Holy Spirit”.82

Remember this: THERE IS NO TEACHING OF THE RCC WHICH IS SO CLEAR IT CANNOT BE DENIED, MODIFIED, OR RE-INTERPRETED AS REQUIRED.

[Natural Law]

"Christ was separated from the Father by the sin of men He bore"

Are you implying that Christ was ever anything other than a co-equal member of the trinity and not omnipotent? Where in Scripture is that asserted? It sounds pretty extra scriptura to me.

[Judith Anne]

That may be, but the comment, “Perhaps muslims aren’t such an enemy of Rome afteraall. Perhaps muslims serve a purpose of Rome by further destroying people and cultures which are not under Rome’s control” —

That comment is the same as saying Catholics use Moslems to kill people that the Church does not control.”

And that is really over the line. It’s one of the most malicious and false things I’ve ever read here. It disrespects our armed forces, our men and women serving in the military, those who have been killed by the enemy.

[OLD REGGIE]

Dominus Iesus still upholds vatican 1. We don;t deny the Holy Spirit blows where He wills. Thus a person saved is still saved through the Church in a mysterious relationship

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/r The Church is the “universal sacrament of salvation”,79 since, united always in a mysterious way to the Saviour Jesus Christ, her Head, and subordinated to him, she has, in God’s plan, an indispensable relationship with the salvation of every human being.80 For those who are not formally and visibly members of the Church, “salvation in Christ is accessible by virtue of a grace which, while having a mysterious relationship to the Church, does not make them formally part of the Church, but enlightens them in a way which is accommodated to their spiritual and material situation. This grace comes from Christ; it is the result of his sacrifice and is communicated by the Holy Spirit”;81 it has a relationship with the Church, which “according to the plan of the Father, has her origin in the mission of the Son and the Holy Spirit”.82

Remember this: THERE IS NO TEACHING OF THE RCC WHICH IS SO CLEAR IT CANNOT BE DENIED, MODIFIED, OR RE-INTERPRETED AS REQUIRED.

[Judith Anne]

Needlessly contentious? Rude?

Are you surprised that someone would answer you in the same tone that you use on the thread? Do you think you are owed some extraordinary courtesy, when your remarks show none? Nevertheless, we try.

[Natural Law]

"She was a hard-working, unhappy, frightened and confused woman whose faith did not sustain her."

Only in the Tim Burton version of her life.

[Natural Law]

"They think..."

Unless you possess the ability to mind read en masse you would have no way of knowing what Catholics think. You would be better served if you simply stated "I think".

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Your posts indicate complete confusion as to who Jesus is, why He Incarnated, how He Incarnated, the role of Mary and the outcome of the Incarnation.

How can Protestants expect Roman Catholics to understand their posts when RCs don't understand Scripture?

Pray for ears to hear.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Further, the difference between RC apologists and Protestants on these threads is that RCs make up loony stuff and tag Protestants with believing it, while Protestants point to actual practices and rites and beliefs Roman Catholics hold and then demolish those errors by the truth of Scripture.

[Jaded]

If this were my primary example of “Christians” I’d head for the door.

If my priest spent any time insulting other ‘Christian denominations’ during Mass, I’d leave and never look back.

It’s sad what passes for christian witness hereon. More stumbling blocks.

[Natural Law]

"Mother Teresa, the atheist! That's a good one! Is that the official OPC position on Mother Teresa?"

When those who have never gotten up off their fat arses to help anyone belittle Mother Teresa it is time to simply ignore then as "crude and looney" and irrelevant.

(If anyone objects to my use of the word "arse" as potty language I challenge them to defend its perpetually permitted alternate spelling "RC" as an offensive term for Catholics in this forum.)

[Natural Law]

"THERE IS NO TEACHING OF THE RCC WHICH IS SO CLEAR IT CANNOT BE DENIED, MODIFIED, OR RE-INTERPRETED AS REQUIRED"

...BY ANTI-CATHOLICS.

If you are going to use a quote, use the entire quote.

[wagglebee]

Don’t be confused, several of the non-Catholics on this thread ARE NOT CHRISTIANS. They profess to be, but they are not. They are willing agents of Satan and will stop at nothing to advance his mission to destroy Christianity.

[Natural Law]

"Don’t be confused, several of the non-Catholics on this thread ARE NOT CHRISTIANS."

By definition, history and example Protestants take their identity not from what they positively affirm, but rather from that which they denounce.

The most virulent have taken their "Protestation" of the Catholic Church and made it the center of their faith. It is the fulcrum against which every issue of dogma and faith and every historical fact is leveraged. Whatever reflects positively on the Church and whatever the Church affirms they must denounce or lose their identity. It makes them small, petty, pitiful wretches. They do not blame themselves or their beliefs for their fringe status, but rather blame the Church for not accepting them as the intellectual and spiritual equals of the Fathers.

They huddle in their shrinking sects and cults working for the demise of that one entity that stands in the path of their undeserved parity, the Catholic Church.

Fortunately, they are nothing more than an irritant for those who permit them to be.

[OLD REGGIE]

Every man must ask what it is that He asks us to do. And Mother Teresa did what He asked far better than I would ever even dream of hoping to do...

Weelll, that's true.

[OLD REGGIE]

Perhaps Calvin leads his disciples to the same hell he lived and died in.

Who told you about Mother Teresa's Calvin's salvation?

[stfassisi]

The most virulent have taken their "Protestation" of the Catholic Church and made it the center of their faith.

Anti Catholicism is their Golden Calf. It consumes them into darkness

[MarkBsnr]

She is implying that you are lying. Its another attempt to circumvent and finesse the rules. I think we should all use "crude and looney" as a code word for lying.

Nonsense. I refuse to believe that she would accuse anyone else of lying. The good Dr. E. would never do anything like that. No, I believe that she is only watching out for us.