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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
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| 8/27/10
| Reginald Firehammer
Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Your hew and cry of racism is invalid. Considering your record for accuracy, I cannot agree.
6,401
posted on
09/20/2010 10:22:17 AM PDT
by
Judith Anne
(Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
To: Judith Anne
I cannot agreeNow see, here's the difference. I don't scream that you don't have a right to disagree.
Isn't that nice? Practice.
6,402
posted on
09/20/2010 10:29:09 AM PDT
by
Dr. Eckleburg
(("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
To: Cronos; bkaycee; Natural Law; Mad Dawg; metmom; RnMomof7; Running On Empty
Re: Honorius Isn't it about time you gave up on the CatholicCulture website?
Remember what we said of "A popes private theological opinions are not infallible, only what he solemnly defines is considered to be infallible teaching" Honorius did not teach Monothelitism, all the facts, every history shows that he did NOT teach Monothelitism
Pay attention. The Sixth Ecumenical Council INFALLIBLY convicted Honorius of heresy and excommunicated him.
Try a web site which denys the infallibility of the Council rather than chasing your tail on the Honorius diversion.
6,403
posted on
09/20/2010 10:43:54 AM PDT
by
OLD REGGIE
(I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
To: metmom
The pope is infallible, except when hes not.
The amusing thing is, though I have been bombarded with spam declaring Honorius was not speaking "Infallibly" I have not seen a single post denying what I really said:
The Sixth Ecumenical Council INFALLIBLY convicted Honorius of Heresy and excommunicated him.
6,404
posted on
09/20/2010 11:07:35 AM PDT
by
OLD REGGIE
(I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
To: Dr. Eckleburg
Let us now consider these statements of authoritative Catholic doctrine one at a time. Outstanding analysis, Dr. E. Great post!
Social justice is a leftist term that has no meaning in the real world. There has never been and can never be a society that has social justice. Social justice is simply a Marxist slogan the effect of which is to delegitimize every existing society, or rather, to delegitimize Western political society.
Amen. If only more people saw that this is the main aim of the Obama presidency. Perhaps they will. May God make it so.
6,405
posted on
09/20/2010 11:41:08 AM PDT
by
Forest Keeper
((It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.))
To: Dr. Eckleburg; bronx2; Legatus; NYer; Salvation; Pyro7480; Coleus; narses; annalex; Campion; ...
As I said, all media reports have put the crowds at less than Rome had first hoped for. You mean the media is downplaying how many people attended events where someone was talking about the immorality of things like abortion and homosexuality? Shocking!
There is a God.
Are you thanking God for the leftist media now?
And just because there were other groups who didn't want him there, either, does not negate the fact that thousands of Anglicans protested Ratzinger's appearance at Westminster.
The story I posted said there were about 200. I realize that may seem like a lot of people by OPC standards, but it is really very small.
You do realize don't you that the Anglicans who were protesting the Pope were the Anglicans who LIKE the secularization of Christianity?
6,406
posted on
09/20/2010 11:57:05 AM PDT
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: Dr. Eckleburg
Now see, here's the difference. I don't scream that you don't have a right to disagree. And if you did, I would laugh.
Isn't that nice? Practice.
Once again, you attempt to command others to do YOUR will.
6,407
posted on
09/20/2010 12:15:24 PM PDT
by
Judith Anne
(Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
To: kosta50
Immaculate Conception remains utterly unknown to the East.That is interesting, I never knew that . I have always felt that the EO's traditions were closer to the traditions at the time of the break ...
On the resurrection, I noted as you do that Christ was raised by the power of the Father.. that is consistent through scripture
6,408
posted on
09/20/2010 12:34:29 PM PDT
by
RnMomof7
(Jhn 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? [even] because ye cannot hear my word.)
To: OLD REGGIE
6,409
posted on
09/20/2010 12:35:05 PM PDT
by
Legatus
(Keep calm and carry on)
To: MarkBsnr
I am a sinner saved by grace.
6,410
posted on
09/20/2010 12:36:27 PM PDT
by
RnMomof7
(Jhn 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? [even] because ye cannot hear my word.)
To: MarkBsnr
You guys give me Paul and Isaiah. I give you Jesus.Actually Mark, I quoted Jesus to you.. but we need to remember that all the words of scripture are equally inspired. It was the Holy Spirit that brought to mind all os the NT accounts and quotes ..there was no one taking notes or recording the words of Christ.. the memories are Holy Spirit inspired as is Acts and the epistles
6,411
posted on
09/20/2010 12:40:50 PM PDT
by
RnMomof7
(Jhn 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? [even] because ye cannot hear my word.)
To: RnMomof7; kosta50
That is interesting, I never knew that . I have always felt that the EO's traditions were closer to the traditions at the time of the break ... It's worth noting though that the Eastern Orthodox DO BELIEVE that the Blessed Mother lived a life without sin.
Many Catholics and Protestants are also unaware that the Orthodox understanding of that nature of Original Sin and its consequences are quite different from ours. Catholic and Protestant beliefs regarding Original Sin are based on the teachings of St. Augustine and the Orthodox reject a lot of these teachings.
6,412
posted on
09/20/2010 12:44:14 PM PDT
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: Dr. Eckleburg
"Social justice is a leftist term that has no meaning in the real world. There has never been and can never be a society that has social justice. Social justice is simply a Marxist slogan the effect of which is to delegitimize every existing society, or rather, to delegitimize Western political society." It would appear that your authoritative source, Austen, is as wrong about social justice as he is about the inferiority of Africans. The Catholic Church has defined and taught the desirability and goal of social justice long before there was ever a Karl Marx.
1928 - Society ensures social justice when it provides the conditions that allow associations or individuals to obtain what is their due, according to their nature and their vocation. Social justice is linked to the common good and the exercise of authority.
1929 - Social justice can be obtained only in respecting the transcendent dignity of man. The person represents the ultimate end of society, which is ordered to Him.
What is at stake is the dignity of the human person, whose defense and promotion have been entrusted to us by the Creator, and to whom the men and women at every moment of history are strictly and responsibly in debt.
Now that you have been made aware of your error all subsequent repetitions will legitimately be classified as lies.
6,413
posted on
09/20/2010 12:45:37 PM PDT
by
Natural Law
(A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
To: OLD REGGIE; bkaycee; Natural Law; Mad Dawg; metmom; RnMomof7; Running On Empty
And, of course, to remind you, what IS Monothelism? It tries to understand how divine and human relate in the person of Jesus. It taught that Jesus had two natures but only one will. This is contrary to the more common Christology that Jesus Christ has two wills (human and divine) corresponding to his two natures.
What was the historical background? In the 5 century AD there were debates on the nature of Jesus Christ. Although the Church had already dogmatically defined that Christ was the Son of God, just what his exact nature was was open to debate. The Church had declared the notion that Jesus was not fully divine heretical in the 4th century during the debates over Arianism and had declared that he was God the Son become human. However, as he was both God and man, there now emerged a dispute over exactly how the human and divine natures of Christ actually existed within the person of Christ.
The Christological definition of Chalcedon, as accepted by the Eastern Orthodox, Catholic, Anglican, and Lutheran churches, is that Christ remains in two distinct natures, yet these two natures come together within His one hypostasis. This position was opposed by the Monophysites who held that Christ possessed one nature only. The term Monophysitism covered two specific versions of this form of Christology. The first, Eutychianism, held that the human and divine natures of Christ were fused into one new single (mono) nature. As described by Eutyches, his human nature was "dissolved like a drop of honey in the sea", and therefore his nature was really divine.[2] The second is referred to as Miaphysitism, which contends that, after the union, Christ is in one theanthropic (human-divine) nature, which is generated from the union of two natures, the two being united without separation, without confusion, and without alteration. It is this version of Monophysitism to which the Oriental Orthodox churches currently adhere.
This internal division was dangerous for the Byzantine Empire, which was under constant threat from external enemies, especially as many of the areas most likely to be lost to the empire were the regions that were in favour of Monophysitism, and who considered the religious hierarchy at Constantinople to be heretics only interested in crushing their faith.
In these provinces, the Non-Chalcedonians were far more numerous than the Chalcedonians. In Egypt for instance, some 30,000 Greeks of Chalcedonian persuasion were ranged against some five million Coptic Non-Chalcedonians. Meanwhile, Syria and Mesopotamia were divided between Nestorianism and Jacobitism, while the religion of Armenia was wholly Cyrilline Non-Chalcedonian. Consequently the Monothelite teaching emerged as a compromise position. The Byzantine emperor Heraclius tried to unite all of the various factions within the Empire with this new formula that was more inclusive and more elastic.
6,414
posted on
09/20/2010 12:51:28 PM PDT
by
Cronos
(This Church is holy, the one Church, the true Church, the Catholic Church-St.Augustine)
To: OLD REGGIE; bkaycee; Natural Law; Mad Dawg; metmom; RnMomof7; Running On Empty
And, in all of these discussions about the Trinity — what do YOU, as a Unitarian believe in regarding the Trinity? Don’t unitarians deny the Trinity and the divinity of Christ?
6,415
posted on
09/20/2010 12:52:42 PM PDT
by
Cronos
(This Church is holy, the one Church, the true Church, the Catholic Church-St.Augustine)
To: kosta50; HarleyD; maryz; bkaycee
Why is then the "off" human being sent to hell and the "on" human (the one who is actually consciously sinning (!) is "saved"???I know the "correct" answer (both deserve it/original sin), but as you illustrate, even with that - I can't make that work.
What I was trying to do was deal primarily with free will. How one can personally experience it daily and think it doesn't exist. That's the biggest hair-puller for me
6,416
posted on
09/20/2010 12:59:13 PM PDT
by
D-fendr
(Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
To: kosta50
The Immaculate Conception isn't unknown in the sense the Orthodox don't know of the concept's existence, it is unknown in the sense the Orthodox didn't accept it and have the concept of the Theotokis which really has to studied in light of other Orthodox beliefs.
6,417
posted on
09/20/2010 12:59:55 PM PDT
by
bronx2
(while Jesus is the Alpha /Omega He has given us rituals which you reject to obtain the graces as to)
To: Dr. Eckleburg
Ahhhh...for the good old days when Bing Crosby wore a collar and choir boys kept their mouths shut.
6,418
posted on
09/20/2010 1:01:26 PM PDT
by
count-your-change
(You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
To: Cronos
And, of course, to remind you, what IS Monothelism? It tries to understand how divine and human relate in the person of Jesus. It taught that Jesus had two natures but only one will. This is contrary to the more common Christology that Jesus Christ has two wills (human and divine) corresponding to his two natures. Many Protestants seem to have this romantic idea that early heretics were basically Protestants who just wanted to practice sola scriptura but were persecuted by the Church. What they need to understand that these early heretics were actually heretics who were preaching heresy that is every bit as repulsive to Protestants as it is to Catholics and Orthodox.
6,419
posted on
09/20/2010 1:07:21 PM PDT
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: count-your-change
lol.
But in “the good old days” Bing Crosby beat his children mercilessly. All four boys hated him. Gary wrote a scathing autobiography of his family life, and two of Crosby’s sons, Dennis and Lindsay, committed suicide.
The sins of the father...
6,420
posted on
09/20/2010 1:08:41 PM PDT
by
Dr. Eckleburg
(("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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