Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]
Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
No answer from him, I see.
Figures. It must be very uncomfortable for RC apologists when Calvin and Rome agree about something, even if that agreement is predicated on different evidence.
I believe, and have suggested before, that the one billion plus babies who have been aborted worldwide are very probably the most visible victims of Satan’s agenda as fought by the culture of death. If this is the case, then it is reasonable to assume that the have received a baptism of blood not unlike the Holy Innocents.
Here's a fun exercise for you to try: apply your own rule ("Were you honestly concerned for the Godless you would be spending time on...etc") to your own posting history. What do we find? I can't find any non-perjorative posts regarding "Unitarians, Seventh Day Adventists, Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, Hindus, Buddhists, Animists, Muslims, Atheists and any number of cultists", if any posts at all. But you sure make a lot of posts about individual non-Catholics. Why do people like you, who are not Protestants, have such a perverse fascination with the thoughts of individual Protestants? As dear, departed Petronski used to say, "it's creepy."
I myself post all the time about the church. I also post about those who fall outside the church. Which means that, if we use your "spending time demonstrates an honest concern" formula, I've publicly demonstrated a more honest concern for all of them than you have. And I think I've managed to post threads about every single group that you named by name on multiple occasions, and before you named them.
Limbo is still taught in the RCC catechism. It’s still doctrine and it will most likely remain doctrine for the RCC.
Rome will just fudge the definition more than it already has and some will believe the lie.
uh...
Who is “she”?
I think you need to go back and look at what you’re talking about and then contemplate my earlier admonition: “if someone can’t see what’s actually written it’s no wonder the wrong conclusions are reached. One wouldn’t be in error to surmise if that’s a failing in common discourse it might also extend to a complete inability to read, comprehend and apply the lessons of Sacred Scripture.”
Not only do you have the wrong end of the stick, you have the wrong stick and it’s not even a stick.
That is a truly fascinating and revealing observation, Alex. Thank you.
Ravens of a feather...
Was His Church built upon the "...the rock of this faith confessed by St. Peter" or on Peter "...built on Peter"?
The answer is simple, I don't care what they say about themselves or each other so I spend no time on their sites or threads. I only care that what is said about the Catholic Church is factual, which is why I lock horns with the anti-Catholics who frequent this site in order to spread and repeat lies and half truths about the Church.
You know scripture is silent on this.. Some theologians in the early church disagreed on when a baby received their soul,so this matter will not be resolved by men ..this is an area that belongs to God...
I would not consider the babies as martyrs as they are not being killed for the faith, they are being killed by selfish women that place themselves above God and their interest before the interest of their own child.. One thing I do know is if mom does not repent she will see eternity from a painful position
AMEN!
It's pretty obvious Rome might do a decent job catechizing its members, but it sure doesn't teach them how to defend their faith from the Scriptures which is the Christian's only rule of faith and practice.
No it isn't. Cite the section number or admit your error. Here is a link to assist you or anyone else in verifying my assertion:
Hey, I can easily admit when I’m wrong.
You’re a “he.”
End of error.
I cited it yesterday. Do your own homework.
Yeesh. No wonder RCs can’t defend their faith from Scripture. They don’t put any effort into it.
The Church has ALWAYS considered the Holy Innocents to be martyrs, they died because Herod was trying to kill Christ.
Aborted babies die because the culture of death, on behalf of Satan, is trying to destroy Christianity.
I’m not saying this is theologically correct, but it is theologically possible.
Sorry but Paul's eyes have long been opened to your religion...That's why he preached against it so vociferously...
You forgot to add the name of your religion to the list...After all, after looking at the costume party going on in Great Britain where your guys and the others are playing religion, it's clear that your group should be listed at the front of the group you posted...
And then your pope had an ecumenical 'interfaith' meeting with the other religions of the world where your pope professed that ALL religions deserve repect from each other since they all worship God...
Problem with this 'interfaith' group, your pope never professed JESUS, the CHRIST...
You guys are in as much need of salvation as any of the rest of the religions you mentioned...And we're here to help...
If only that were the case. I wasn't objecting to the fact that comments were made, twice I pointed out that comments were to be expected. I was expressing my disappointment in the nature of the comments.
These things were made very clear, I'll try not to analyze why a person might have missed them, only that they were missed.
A. The hell into which Christ's soul descended was not the hell of the dammed, but a place or state of rest called Limbo, where the souls of the just were waiting for Him. Q. 403. Why did Christ descend into Limbo? A. Christ descended into Limbo to preach to the souls who were in prison -- that is, to announce to them the joyful tidings of their redemption. Q. 404. Where was Christ's body while His soul was in Limbo? A. While Christ's soul was in Limbo His body was in the holy sepulchre.Q. 402. Did Christ's soul descend into the hell of the damned?
Ignorance of Scripture is no excuse.
Examples abound but I think the above is sufficient.
"Were you honestly concerned for the Godless you would be spending time on Unitarians, Seventh Day Adventists, Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, Hindu's, Buddhists, Animists, Muslims, Atheists and any number of cultists."
-- FReeper Natural Law, September 18, 2010
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