Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]
Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
And I am certain you know the boilerplate answer too.
““that” refers to the entire previous statement about salvation, not only the grace but the faith.”
No, it does not. Not in the Greek. It specifically excludes reference to faith in the Greek, as has been explained.
Romans 3:27
Where then is boasting? It is excluded. By what kind of law? Of works? No, but by a law of faith.
if that were even close to being true then the whole verse is nonsense
Catholics have unity alright. They’re all uniformly wrong, according to FRoman Catholics.
They have a bigger issue than *disunity* of beliefs from church to church or parishioner to parishioner.. They have whole churches full of people who are being taught things that the Vatican allegedly does not teach, that is allegedly (in some cases) not “official” church doctrine.
You can’t even get Catholics on this forum to agree about that little book Quix posted about Mary.
However, when you can find two passages within the Catechism of the Catholic Church which make diametrically opposite claims, you can tell any non-Catholic that they’re *wrong* about any church doctrine.
SO the best you can do is *hope* that the baby receives mercy from God? That means that the unbaptized baby goes to hell.
So, why are Catholics so bent out of shape about Calvinists saying that babies may not be saved?
That’s appalling.
There’s no excuse EVER to not pray for someone. If you really think that they’re unsaved, the more the need for prayer.
I sure hope she found a new church.
....BY THOSE WHO CHOOSE TO REMAIN IGNORANT OF THE FACTS AND HAVE A MOTIVE TO DAMAGE THE CHURCH.
Catholics are only united in their error, based on what I know I was taught and all the Catholics I grew up with believed, since the FRoman Catholics have told me, in no uncertain terms, that I’ve been wrong about all that for all those years.
What I’ve related is what the Catholics I knew were taught and what they believed. My leaving the Catholic church was not due to being poorly catechized, and having those *corrected* has not changed my mind.
The very nature of the *correction* has not convinced me that anything has changed in the Catholic church, present company excluded.
You are far more like the Catholics I’ve met in this little town we live in now.
Jesus Christ is fully God.
Jesus Christ is fully Man.
Oh, and unity does not equal uniformity, just in case that was what you were implying.
Mat 8:10 When Jesus heard this, he marveled and said to those who followed him, "Truly, I tell you, with no one in Israel have I found such faith.
Not, To no one else have I given such faith, but "have I found such faith".
Jesus came to give sight to the blind...Mat 9:29 Then he touched their eyes, saying, "According to your faith be it done to you."
Mar 5:34 And he said to her, "Daughter, your faith has made you well; go in peace, and be healed of your disease."
Jesus promised "And whatever you ask in prayer, you will receive, if you have faith." - Matt 21. Not, if I give you faith, but if you have faith.
When Jesus started his ministry, he proclaimed "The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel." (Mark 1) He commanded those hearing to repent and believe. He didn't offer to give them faith and belief, but commanded them to do it - "repent and believe in the gospel".
I make no pretense of saving myself. I can do nothing to force God to call me good. All I can do is accept his offer, and obey his command - "Repent, and believe".
I spent 25 years in the military. Commands are not passive. They demand a response from the person hearing the command.
If your version is correct, our reality is nonsense.
Do you have nothing to do, no choice whatsoever in what you believe?
What is the rock? Is it the supernatural belief given to each Christian or is it Peter? Why do I have a nagging suspicion that you think it's Peter?
No, it is not nonsense.
For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this [grace] is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
“Ephesians 2:8
For by grace (thi gar xariti).
Explanatory reason. “By the grace” already mentioned in verse 5 and so with the article.
Through faith (dia pistewv).
This phrase he adds in repeating what he said in verse 5 to make it plainer. “Grace” is God’s part, “faith” ours.
And that (kai touto).
Neuter, not feminine tauth, and so refers not to pistiv (feminine) or to xariv (feminine also), but to the act of being saved by grace conditioned on faith on our part. Paul shows that salvation does not have its source (ex umwn, out of you) in men, but from God. Besides, it is God’s gift (dwron) and not the result of our work. “
http://www.studylight.org/com/rwp/view.cgi?book=eph&chapter=002&verse=008
I can't help myself...
108. Q. What is hope?
A. Hope is a divine virtue by which we firmly trust that God will give us eternal life and the means to obtain it.
he’s got a Catholic translation I think
again, the law of faith excludes boasting. If you could believe all on your own you could boast about it. God says you can’t.
There is a misconception amongst many anti-Catholics that Papal infallibility is unlimited and unconstrained. Nothing could be further from the truth.
The infallible teachings of the Pope must be based on, or at least not contradict, Sacred Tradition or Sacred Scripture. Papal infallibility does not imply that the Pope is impeccable, or that he is exempt from liability to sin or that he is never personally wrong about dogma. It is possible that a Pope may have advocated for or taught a heretical position.
Papal Infallibility was defined dogmatically in the First Vatican Council of 1870 and has only been invoked once.
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