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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]

Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)


TOPICS: Activism; Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
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To: sitetest

Biases are definitely showing.


4,421 posted on 09/13/2010 8:11:35 PM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

INDEED.

Back to grading.


4,422 posted on 09/13/2010 8:12:55 PM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: Mad Dawg; sitetest

He’ll fit right in.


4,423 posted on 09/13/2010 8:12:57 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Mad Dawg
Dear Mad Dawg,

He is marrying into a very, very Catholic family. His father-in-law to be is a deacon. The family has many Marian devotions.

And then, in May, he came to work for me. He comes over to my house for the first time (I run the business from my house, now), and the first thing he sees when he walks into the living room is a statue of Mary with our family photos surrounding it.

When his fiancée told her mother, she cried.

Of course, being a Knight of Columbus, I have a Form 100 (membership form) waiting for him as soon as the Easter Vigil is done.

I think he is quite overwhelmed.

But really happy.

I know a little bit about his background, and this is a real life-changer for him.


sitetest

4,424 posted on 09/13/2010 8:13:53 PM PDT by sitetest ( If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Quix; Religion Moderator
In another forum, a friend described an obnoxious advocate of, um, what's the word? merriment? Light-heartedness? No, I remember, ahem, 'gaiety', as "ineffable."

I would have thought the problem was that he was all too effable.

O-Religion Moderator-sama,
I will now commit seppuku and I promise not to get my blood all over your nice clean forum.

4,425 posted on 09/13/2010 8:14:53 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Quix

“When ridiculed, we bless; when persecuted, we endure; when slandered, we respond gently.”

I bless you, person-who-uses-the-screen-name-Quix.


4,426 posted on 09/13/2010 8:15:27 PM PDT by sitetest ( If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Mad Dawg

Goodness.

Wittisisms so late at night.

May that be an indication of you feeling well.


4,427 posted on 09/13/2010 8:18:31 PM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: sitetest

I bless you with all

The Lord Jesus’ wisdom to seek the Father’s Face;

to Follow His Word;

to focus on His priorities;

to seek nothing apart from His Will;

to see nothing but His Truth and Righteousness.


4,428 posted on 09/13/2010 8:19:59 PM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: Legatus

Thanks for the info. You lost me at “opened it in MS Paint.”

8~)


4,429 posted on 09/13/2010 8:20:34 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Quix

Always.

Which is why God made me a devout Catholic.

Blessed be God forever.


4,430 posted on 09/13/2010 8:21:09 PM PDT by sitetest ( If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Your calls for civility are obviously hypocritical.

Your protestations of intellectual capacity are obviously unfounded.

Hey! This is fun!

First, I didn't say "the lady dogs of Geneva."

Second, this is new to me: somebody persists in discourtesy after discourtesy, falsehood after falsehood, and insult upon insult, and the instant his target, instead of protesting (a word which should be dear to such a person's heart), responds in kind, out come the accusations of hypocrisy!

Thanks for opening up those gates over which dogs preside and against which I have a promise that we will prevail and for giving me a glimpse of what lies inside.

4,431 posted on 09/13/2010 8:22:07 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: sitetest
Well, I kinda just flunked that one.

Sure was fun though.

Bed for me.

Holy Cross tomorrow! I heard one of the best sermons on unmerited love on this day in 1973.

4,432 posted on 09/13/2010 8:24:22 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg; narses; Forest Keeper

I rarely participate in religious threads anymore. If I see some new posters, I MIGHT jump in...but many of the threads involve largely the same folks I discussed things with last year.

To the extent that they involve folks with honest questions, and or a sincere desire to follow God where He leads, they are valuable. Catholics and Baptists are free to have serious disagreements, provided they understand that God will bring us to Him in His way & His timing. But too many of the threads left me feeling dirty...they were appealing to my flesh, my pride, my vanity - and I suspect we all can agree we have too many appeals like that without finding more on the Internet!

If you know you are a sinner who can only be saved by God’s grace thru the sacrifice of Jesus, then you are my brother or sister in Christ. And you are HIS servant, not mine. I can & should share with you, pray for you, seek to encourage you - but never to try to impose my human will on you. When we disagree about the Eucharist, I need to remember that I may be the one in the wrong, too immature to handle the truth.

I guess I would rather join you in prayer than debate something we have already covered. I truly believe that on that Day, we will all shed tears for our many errors and understand the words of Job:

“I had heard of you by the hearing of the ear,
but now my eye sees you;
therefore I despise myself,
and repent in dust and ashes.” - Job 42.5-6 ESV

And then our Lord will wipe those tears, and welcome us home, and when we meet in heaven we won’t even remember what we had once argued about.

It will be like what J Vernon McGhee wrote about predestination & free will:

“Election and free will happen to be one of those...There is a theological argument that rages today on election or free will. There are some people who put all their eggs in the basket of election. There are others who put all their eggs in the basket of free will. I’m not proposing to reconcile the two because I have discovered that I cannot. If you had met me the year that I entered seminary, or the year I graduated, I could have reconciled them for you. I never have been as smart as I was my first year and my last year in seminary. I knew it all then. I could reconcile election and free will, and it was a marvelous explanation. Now I’ve even forgotten what it was. It was pretty silly, if you want to know the truth...”


4,433 posted on 09/13/2010 8:24:33 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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To: sitetest

Yep.

Only way.

Dive in. No holding back.


4,434 posted on 09/13/2010 8:26:01 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mr Rogers

Beautiful post, Mr R! :)


4,435 posted on 09/13/2010 8:28:06 PM PDT by annie laurie (All that is gold does not glitter, not all those who wander are lost)
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To: Mr Rogers

Thank you.


4,436 posted on 09/13/2010 8:28:16 PM PDT by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words: "It's too late"))
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To: Mr Rogers

nice to hear from you and

GREAT QUOTE!

Poverty, it’s the only way!


4,437 posted on 09/13/2010 8:28:29 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg

YOU TWO!

SIGH


4,438 posted on 09/13/2010 8:46:12 PM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: Mr Rogers

Excellent post.

Thx.

Good seeing your name again.


4,439 posted on 09/13/2010 8:48:32 PM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: RnMomof7
I tried so hard to reconcile the gospel with the catholic church doctrine.. one does not leave a family tradition, the faith you were raised in, without considerable contemplation and some pain

I tried to stay, but the more I read scripture, the less I believed church teaching... finally one day I realized that I could not longer accept the doctrine as any manner of truth ..and so I left.

I had never heard of "sola scriptura" or "sola fide" .. alll I knew is that the bible did not support the doctrine I had grown up with ...I knew to be faithful to God, I had to leave and I did. That decision was not without cost, all of my friends were catholic.. they no longer talked to me. I lost ministries I loved, but as He did with Job, God restored what was lost with a far greater gain...Christ

Amen, RnMom!

"O bless our God, ye people, and make the voice of his praise to be heard:

Which holdeth our soul in life, and suffereth not our feet to be moved.

For thou, O God, hast proved us: thou hast tried us, as silver is tried.

Thou broughtest us into the net; thou laidst affliction upon our loins.

Thou hast caused men to ride over our heads; we went through fire and through water: but thou broughtest us out into a wealthy place...

Come and hear, all ye that fear God, and I will declare what he hath done for my soul." -- Psalm 66:8-12,16


4,440 posted on 09/13/2010 8:49:40 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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