Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
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Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
No. I don’t recall reading those.
I’m willing to look at one.
However, I think this is not an entirely convincing or practical argument.
Demons asserted accurately who Christ was/is.
SOBERING.
Sigh.
I’m not seeing the dove/duck.
The plethera of RC authors Ferraro collected seem to think so . . . while, of course . . . denying it, too.
It’s that 2nd Station of the Stations of the White Hanky thing.
Yes, I would never read the bible myself nor would I ever look up the Greek meaning of the words to see for myself what the bible says. I must needs find me “some store-front charlatan “ to interpret the scripture for me. Perhaps in the future I will find me a Catholic who will tell me, “just read Mary, Mary, Mary into it and you’ll be fine.”
WELL PUT.
I'm really old
Hmmmmmm
Augustine led a wild youth and thankfully, finally settled down to write a lot of great books. The early Augustine was a lot different from the later Augustine. As he matured, so did his faith and the all-encompassing joy he experienced by being a child of the most High God.
Just as ours should.
And we need to rediscover Augustine's peculiar slant – a very Biblical slant – on grace as the free gift of sovereign joy in God that frees us from the bondage of sin. We need to rethink our Reformed soteriology so that every limb and every branch in the tree is coursing with the sap of Augustinian delight. We need to make plain that total depravity is not just badness, but blindness to beauty and deadness to joy; and unconditional election means that the completeness of our joy in Jesus was planned for us before we ever existed; and that limited atonement is the assurance that indestructible joy in God is infallibly secured for us by the blood of the covenant; and irresistible grace is the commitment and power of God's love to make sure we don't hold on to suicidal pleasures, but will set us free by the sovereign power of superior delights; and that the perseverance of the saints is the almighty work of God to keep us, through all affliction and suffering, for an inheritance of pleasures at God's right hand forever..." "...If it is true, as R.C. Sproul says that today "we have not broken free from the Pelagian captivity of the church," then we should pray and preach and write and teach and labor with all our might to break the chain that holds us captive. Sproul says, "We need an Augustine or a Luther to speak to us anew lest the light of God's grace be not only overshadowed but be obliterated in our time." Yes, we do. But we also need tens of thousands of ordinary pastors like you and me, who are ravished with the extraordinary sovereignty of joy in God.
Good stuff, saints! 8~)
I think that was pretty much the argument your church used to try and kill any Christians that refused to submit to it.
YUP.
Well it is ironic that many here want to castigate some others for not believing in the trinity when they technically dont either
See the white thing under the central figure (God the Father)? Looks sort of like a menorah? It's the Holy Ghost as a dove, head down. Descending maybe. To me it was as obvious as the face behind your nose.
I remember those shows.
They were a problem for me because of my handicapped poor understanding of jokes—particularly then.
AMEN! THX THX.
I never suggested any such thing.
I must needs find me “some store-front charlatan “ to interpret the scripture for me.[sic]
Actually, just about any charlatan would be more apt to know the truth than a bigot like Michael Scheifler, since you seem to treat him as some sort of authority on Catholicism.
Perhaps in the future I will find me a Catholic who will tell me, “just read Mary, Mary, Mary into it and you’ll be fine.”
No matter how much the anti-Catholic bigots on Free Republic try to convince you otherwise, devout Catholics fitting this description DO NOT EXIST.
INDEED.
I saw that.
Looks like a clothing decoration, to me.
wmfights, there are some who will insist on continually posting the same misrepresentation though they have been disabused of that many times. It is best to simply ignore them.
Quacketh the duck, NEVERMORE?
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