Intended Catholic Dictatorship

Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

[Hank Kerchief]

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]

Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)

[Quix]

Here you are emphasizing what

HE, CHRIST, CHOSE.

Yet, the Marian hogwash is cast as though she, of HER OWN CHOOSING, something, has been made Jr God.

I realize there’s a list of rationalizations denying that. However, the net effect is the same as the Ferraro quotes so vividly demonstrate.

[Quix]

PRAISE GOD
FOR THE VAST
MISSIONARY WORK
THAT
AIMEE SEMPLE MCPHERSON
BEGAN FOR HER LORD JESUS!

"DO NOT DESPISE
THESE SMALL BEGINNINGS,
FOR THE LORD
REJOICES
TO SEE THE WORK
BEGIN.”

Houses of Happiness Orphanage just outside Quito, Ecuador, began with an old tumble down shack which we rented for $7.50 a month. After we had cleaned up after the cows and chickens that had lived there, repaired the roof and built plywood beds, we took 36 children who were living with relatives in the prison and moved them into this new “home.”

For one year they cooked over an open fire. The children went to bed early on Saturday night so their clothes could be washed and mended for another week. Only one of the 36 children had a pair of shoes, but at least they had hot meals and a warm blanket, things they did not have in prison.

This ministry came to the attention of the wife of the President of Ecuador and my husband, Henry , was made administrator over her social work in the country. One day she said to Henry, “You will not let us pay you, so we have decided to honor you in a way you cannot refuse.”

The President decorated Henry with a medal of honor and gave him the title deed of 50 acres of beautiful land in a valley on the outskirts of Quito. It is on this very same land that the Houses of Happiness Orphanage was eventually built.

Today it houses many orphans who need to be loved and cared for. Praise be to God, who provides even the fertile ground to plant the seeds for The Kingdom!

Dorothy Davis
Former [Foursquare] Missionary to Ecuador

Father, help me not to despise small beginnings in my life or in the lives of others… give me faith to see things through your eyes, help me to see the potential and to have faith in you to provide every need… .
Page
—260 —

From:
FROM THE FIELD:
365 Missionary Stories
To Encourage Your Daily Walk
By
FOURSQUARE MISSIONS INTERNATIONAL
ICFG
INTERNATIONAL CHURCH of the FOURSQUARE GOSPEL

[Mad Dawg]

The more time we spend arguing with these infidels, the less time we have for establishing the dictatorship of the Pope!

WHERE are our priorities?

Quix: you can admit it. We know you’re just doing all this stuff to keep us from taking over. War by font!

It’s just SEW un-FAY-ur!

Okay. I’m going to bed before I disgrace myself further. May God attend to the prayers of our Lady, and may she pray for us all to be blessed and drawn ever deeper into His loving heart.

[Quix]

There is none so blessed or so favored by God.

WHAT HORRIFIC UNBIBLICAL UNMITIGATED BALDERDASH.Proddys realize that there's a chronic Vatican compulsion to trash ALMIGHTY GOD'S WORD--Scripture in favor of Mary. HOWEVER,

CHRIST HIMSELF POINTEDLY NOTED THAT THOSE WHO OBEYED THE WILL OF THE FATHER

WERE
MORE
BLESSED!

What an epic fail at Biblical understanding and at obeying The Father! Yet, Proddys are construed to be the bad folks! What UNMITIGATEDLY ARROGANT nonsense!

[Quix]

BTW, Proddys realize that RC’s construe themselves as above all rules . . . except those written on white hankys distributed by Mary or The Vatican.

However, regardless of the RC’s relentless efforts to make FR a sub-office of the Vatican . . . it’s NOT, yet.

And one of FR’s rules for the Rel Forum, is to avoid potty language including abbreviations for same.

It must be VERY hard for RC rabid cliques to do, given the Scriptural truth that out of the abundance of the heart the mouth and fingers speak. However, y’all might try a little harder to at least put some MORE CONVINCING white wash over it.

[Quix]

LOL.

[Lera]

Pure evil !

[mas cerveza por favor]

Seems unlikely that Hagee would have said that...You have something more than here say for the citation???

Preacher Hagee is no longer even remotely Christian, but has become an apostate Noachide. On Youtube, he says:

"I'm delighted to present my latest book, 'In Defense of Israel'. This book will expose the sins of the Fathers and the vicious abuse of the Jewish people. 'In Defense of Israel' will shape Christian theology. It scripturally proves that the Jewish people as a whole did not reject Jesus as the Messiah. It will also prove the Jesus did not come to earth to be the Messiah... Since Jesus refused by word and deed to claim to be the Messiah, how can the Jews be blamed for rejecting what was never offered?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah1sx_93EoE

[D-fendr]

So, as a comparison, what is the Unitarian view, and/or your view, on the divinity of Christ?

[sneakers]

I agree narses. Our evil scheme has been revealed. We must rethink our plans and return to conquer another day.

We’ll probably have to go to plan B: you know - the plan to turn all the drinking water into holy water! OOPS! I’ve already said too much!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

[markomalley]

Yup, those meddling kids got us...

[Mad Dawg]

Actually, I think construing the "rather" as saying they are MORE blessed is over-specific. I say again that when I read that exchange (and this was true before I kissed the Pope's toe) I see the woman crying out and kind of thinking that holiness is not for her, and Jesus saying, "I won't let you dodge the gift and the call -- YOU can 'hear and keep' the word. It's not just for a few."

But I had another thought as I drifted into unconsciousness last night.

Again, I quite understand (I think) the sort of "What? they said WHAT?" reaction to things like "tree of life."

It would be helpful to know when this abundance of appelations arose. I'm going to take a wild guess and suggest around the 14th century and thereafter.

What we have in that time is the rise of the whole idea of "courtly love," of devotion to a 'lady' who is and will always be romantically or maritally inaccessible.

And in the youthful spirit of that time, extravagant praise and sort of mock arguments praising one's 'lady' -- efforts to outdo one another in florid praise -- would be almost 'the style.'

So, this may be totally off the wall, but I imagine some guy among a group of guys parading their devotion to Mary, and one guy says, "Hold my flagon and watch this. I say Mary is the Tree of Life!"

And the other guys react pretty much as you did, except not with anger though, but with, "Hey! You can't say that! Show us how it's okay to make THAT claim!"

And so the first guy would say pretty much what I said (only more elegantly): She is the Tree of Life because she bore the fruit with gives Life, namely our Sweet Lord. As a tree bring forth fruit for our good, our Lady brought forth the Lord who brings us everlasting life."

And the other guys would applaud and try to think up something even more outrageous which reasoning could justify.

[Natural Law]

"“History furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government,” Thomas Jefferson wrote. “In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty.”

Jefferson was referring to all clergy and actually cited the "Protestant Popes" of Boston as an example within the same letter.

[Natural Law]

"When Rome lifts the anathemas against all Protestants maybe Rome will have some credibility."

When you learn what anathema means perhaps you will have some credibility.

[Natural Law]

"I bought the encyclical."

The Encyclical was never for sale, it is available free on the Vatican website. We can therefore conclude that the rest of of the posting is equally bogus.

[Quix]

I thought at the read of your first discourse now lost in the flood of posts weeks/months ago . . . that such an explanation MIGHT go SOME of the distance in terms of sociology, linguistics and IN-GROUP dynamics explaining HOW SUCH AROSE.

However, to this Proddy, there is NO excuse for such encroachments on Christ’s, God’s Name, roles and offices.

NONE WHATSOEVER.

There just isn’t. It’s as strict a prohibition as I find in Scripture—Old or New Testament.

This business of shoehorning Mary into the High Priest’s role

WHEN CHRIST CLEARLY TOOK THAT ROLE EXCLUSIVELY ONCE AND FOR ALL

is just FRIGHTFULLY idolatrous and blasphemous to the max no matter how it’s sliced, from our perspective.

It’s NOT a mild linguistic alternative construction on reality—NOT TO US, and we believe, NOT AT ALL TO GOD.

And, it’s more than a bit incongruous that the Vatican is delighted to construe her in the High Priest’s role while refusing any remotely similar role for any other woman.

I say again, before I came to FR, I thought a lot of the RC Mary stuff to be excessive but more quaint than a dreadfully serious idolatry or blasphemy problem.

IT IS THE RC’S HEREON WHO HAVE DEMONSTRATED RELENTLESSLY JUST HOW SERIOUS AND HORRIFIC THE PROBLEM IS.

And, it is the RC’s hereon who have DEMONSTRATED relentlessly just how seductive that whole schtick, that whole construction on ‘reality’ is in terms of looming END TIMES events and transitions.

That whole umbrella of thought, feelings, images, ideations, foci . . . particularly throwing in the apparitions . . . is all primed and ready to lead millions of RC’s down a VERY eternally destructive yellow brick road.

What will the applauding hierarchy say on meeting The Father then . . . something akin to what they’ve been saying to the authorities about the fondling priests?

Uhhhhh . . . we didn’t know . . . . uhhhh . . . we did what we thought was best FOR THE INSTITUTION . . . uhhhh how can anything about Jesus Mother possibly be wrong? etc. etc. etc.

And the Father will likely say . . .

[Quix]

Still writing out of all sides of the daffynitionary, I see.

[roamer_1]

Preacher Hagee is no longer even remotely Christian, but has become an apostate Noachide.

What fetid gossip that is.

Without even looking for his explanation, I knew exactly what he meant:

Jesus did not come as Messiah - He came as the "Suffering Servant." While that began His role as Messiah, it is largely based upon the promise of things hoped for... A belief in things unseen.

When Jesus comes as Messiah (as the Old Testament would largely depict it), that promise will be made known to every breathing thing. It is realized in Christ, physically here, as King of Kings, with the iron rod between His feet, when the Law will go forth from Jerusalem.

That is the fulfillment of the Kingdom. That is the fulfillment of the Kinsman Redeemer. And that has not happened yet.

Those who cannot see that have a deficiency of knowledge with regard to the Old Covenant.

I was surprised to learn that some people were interpreting my words as a rejection of this most fundamental Christian belief that Jesus came to earth as the Messiah promised in the Hebrew Scriptures. I have been preaching the gospel for half a century. [...]

[...] I chose to use challenging language that I hoped would confront the body of Christ to consider events from the Jewish and historical perspective and therefore develop greater empathy for our Jewish friends.

Over the centuries, Christians have been quick to condemn the Jews for failing to recognize Jesus as Messiah. This approach led to replacement theology and the viewpoint of some that God has rejected and broken covenant with the Jewish people. These ideas, in turn, opened the door to a vicious Christian anti-Semitism that led to the Crusades, the Inquisition and countless pogroms.

I tried to challenge this view by highlighting a distinction that has been long recognized in Christian theology between the role Jesus played in His first coming, and the role He will play in his second coming. Jesus came the first time as the suffering Messiah, as exemplified by His persecution, rejection and crucifixion. Jesus will come back as the reigning Messiah, who will rule the world from His throne in Jerusalem as King of Kings and Lord of Lords. -Pastor John Hagee

"A Special Message from Pastor John Hagee Regarding His Book In Defense of Israel" (pp. 3-6)

It seems that Replacement Theology has blinded the eyes of many - That too, comes from an insufficient knowledge of the Tanakh:

Joe 3:1 For, behold, in those days, and in that time, when I shall bring again the captivity of Judah and Jerusalem,
Joe 3:2 I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land.

[roamer_1]

And the other guys would applaud and try to think up something even more outrageous which reasoning could justify.

... And that, somehow, makes it O.K?