Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]
Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
"We then, as workers together with Him, beseech you also that ye receive not the grace of God in vain...Behold, now is the accepted time; Behold, Now is the day of salvation." (2 Cor. 6:1,2).
I didn't feel this in 2000. Today I feel it as never before.
I AGREE
INDEED.
AMEN! AMEN!
It’s also a huge difference between 1-3 or so poorly similar cues vs now many hundreds to thousands of data points . . . such as the main one of Israel becoming a nation again in 1948 or retaking Jerusalem in 1967.
It is idiotic to construe any other era as remotely fitting the Biblical prophecies
as it is idiotic to construe this one as not.
"...But I guess they think that since you hate Catholics,
Would you say it was an example of hatred toward non-Catholics or a direct hatred toward Quix?
I haven't read a post like that anywhere...Are you making stuff up again???
There is pretty clear prophecy that tells us when we are very close to the return of Jesus Christ. The reformation of Israel. The return of Jews to Israel. A peace treaty with Israel and the muslim nations that want to kill all the Jews. The rebuilding of the Temple. Some of these things have occurred and some haven’t. From my perspective it could be tomorrow, or a 1,000 years I don’t know. I do believe it is sooner rather than later.
AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!
In the end all we will have left for our security is our faith in Christ. This is as it should be.
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AMEN! AMEN!
LOL.
Amen, Quix. The whole Bible can be divided into two areas: prophecy and mystery. We know what the mystery is, given by direct revelations from Jesus Christ to Paul, for the Church the Body of Christ. That leaves prophecy. And what is left to be fulfilled. And it IS NOT the Catholic Church. Prophecy has always been to Israel, for Israel. Nothing about that has changed. From Genesis to Revelation, with the exception of Romans through Philemon. For anyone to try to read their own religious system into God’s prophetic events concerning the nation Israel is to be very disappointed. Guaranteed.
Politics is funny too. Back in 2000 I know the Holy Spirit called me to pray during the Florida counting of Bush/Gore. Now during this election cycle my sense is the Spirit is silent about a political solution to our current situation. The republicans are not the answer. Jesus Christ our Lord is the answer
INDEED
Of course! But then you have a brain and a level of integrity which is sorely lacking in some.
INDEED.
INDEED. CONGRATS.
Or do you believe, Iscool, that there are some who are either so stupid or, worse yet, so dishonest that they would continue to make this false claim.
Hmmmmm . . . I guess that means, “C” Both
is not an option.
DON’T BLAME YOU A BIT, JESSE.
THANKS TONS FOR YOUR REPLY.
Prayers for your health and family.
You remain top flight in my book. It’s a great honor that I got to meet and chat with you in Aztec. And I’ve always appreciated our exchanges on FR FREEPMAILS.
The jerkfaced replies about you being nonexistent aren’t really worth bothering with anyway.
Let's look at what it says:
It contains the seven genuine and six spurious letters, but even the genuine epistles were greatly interpolated to lend weight to the personal views of its author.
The Epistle of Ignatius to the Smyrnaeans has ALWAYS been considered genuine.
THANKS TONS FOR YOUR KIND WORDS.
"...But I guess they think that since you hate Catholics,"
Would you say it was an example of hatred toward non-Catholics or a direct hatred toward Quix?
Perhaps nanetteclaret was expressing an opinion of Quix, perhaps not; I'm not a mind reader.
I think the angst and virulent anger of a lot of RC’s on FR is incredible to behold.
I’ve ran into it in a fair amount of RC’s face to face but it’s far worse on FR.
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