Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]
Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
"I find it rather interesting that the mockery and derision of this as a possibility comes from the camp who sees images of Christ or Mary in things like stains on floors, burnt toast, or tree bark. Any people’s ready to believe that kind of nonsense is more than ripe for believing in alien abduction. Catholicism does little or nothing to protect its adherents from superstitious nonsense."
Maintaining an aurora of secrecy invites more questions and validates doubts about beliefs. Thus I would venture any probes in the form of suppositions and conjecture would be valid and considered akin to questioning a hostile witness in court.
WELL PUT.
I don’t doubt that they bioengineer critters.
I certainly do NOT believe that they bioengineered Jesus! Sheesh!
Shoot, humans are doing that, now.
Evidently at least one class of ‘greys’ are biological robots housing demons . . . that purportedly ‘live’ about a year and a half.
Well, it's not the clearest way to communicate it; however, you're clarifications are intended to make it less bizarre, it's just not working for me.
Speaking of being interested in the truth, I don’t suppose that you’ll be seeing any apology forthcoming about how any have misrepresented you and how they should have checked with you for clarification first, before presuming that they knew what they thought you meant.
But that wouldn’t be nearly as much fun as portraying you as a nutjob and destroying your credibility.
There is no secrecy. My posting history is open to perusal by anyone anytime they feel like it.
I guess I need you to restate your point.
It’s late. I’m heading for the shower and I just don’t get your point.
UNMITIGATED DUPLICITOUS NONSENSE.
OF COURSE NOT.
However, I learned long ago that all the rabid cliques must have an initiation requirement that members MUST BE allergic to and terminally resistent to anything hinting of apologies about anything.
I’ll speak for myself, Quix.
I have never thought you should be obliterated from FR.
I would like to “engage” in equal give and take with capacity and decency, but I wouldn’t want to call it a “fray”.
I don’t feel “bitterness, anger, hostility or vengeance”.
I also find your manner of posting difficult for several reasons: I don’t see the need for all the colors and bold fonts and capitals. I do wonder what purpose it serves.
I also think that many of your posts don’t really say much, or say what you have said already a hundred times over, or have “shock value” rather than something more substantive for straight-forward discussion.
One thing that certainly has disturbed me on occasions is your reference to your language style and satire as “fun”. A number of times you have referenced this way, even to the point of calling it “playing” with other posters.
Even in this post you make a reference to mocking, which you say would be fun for you.
If that mocking or satire were occasional it might be more meaningful and more palatable. But it’s not just occasional—it’s pretty consistent and permeating.
Now that I have been honest about this, you might say that I have exercised my privilege to use a “2x4 to the side of the head”. But that’s not at all what I have in mind. I’m just telling you how it is with me, as an FR lurker/part-time poster.
I also think that something has happened to this thread as of today-—it has become a thread that is a lot about you, and not a topic at hand (whatever the topic at hand is right now—I think the topic is now wandering all over the place.) I was under the impression that threads were not supposed to be “about” individual posters, but about discussion of topics and ideas.
I’ve given it my best shot to be “decent” with this post.
Hopefully you will respond in kind.
My credibility is whatever it is with whomever.
God is the only one I really want to please supremely, emphatically.
I greatly appreciate your candor in this post.
I don’t think I have anything new to add on the topics you raised. Sorry.
I'm thinking "superstitious" would be a step up from this.
As a follower of the Biblical Jesus we are taught to love our neighbor. I don't know about the doctrine of space cadet jesus
Whoop T Dooooo
The uninformed perspectives on this topic have never been impressive to me.
They all seem wedded mindlessly to a TYPE II ERROR . . . AS THOUGH TYPE II ERRORS WERE LESS DEADLY THAN TYPE I ERRORS.
THEY ARE NOT LESS DEADLY.
Well, neither does anyone else. That has been made clear enough. If you persist in believing otherwise, fine. Delude yourself.
Just don't expect to be taken seriously any more about any thing, especially any alleged concern for someone's eternal destiny when you can't seem to manage to work up any concern for simple temporal issues like not misrepresenting what someone else believes.
It's tomorrow here on the east coast.
Later.
I think the arguments I wished to make have be clearly made.
I believe they needed to be made, but for me to continue on past this would be cruel.
*bookmark*
Not remotely cruel.
I don’t think that’s within your power.
Absurd, maybe.
Silly, maybe.
Not cruel.
INDEED.
THX FOR ALL YOU’VE DONE TODAY.
May God bless you richly accordingly, Precious Sister in Christ.
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