Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]
Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
VERY WELL PUT ANALYSIS, imho.
Thanks.
I take no responsibility for other folks reading comprehension problems.
Wow! Maybe I am more in the Bonaventure school ... dang! And me only 17 months from life promises as a Dominican!
yes, plus Satan is “the Lord of the air” and if UFOs or Marion apparitions are in the air he could be the author of lying wonders
INDEED.
The cup thing was settled some posts ago.
It wasn’t practiced last time I was regularly attending the Catholic church. I hear it has changed since then.
No, sorry.
First, actual, real Christians don't call Jesus in the Blessed Sacrament, “Soylent White Wafer.” Those are the words of pagans. Ditto on vulgar, vile comments on the toilet habits of the Holy Mother of God. For folks who make comments like this, one must presume that they don't have the Holy Spirit. In fact, one must accept the possibility of dealings with demons.
Second, reading post 3052 raises a host of questions. There's the inherent gnosticism of the whole quivering mess. But there are also questions of ontology. It's not very well written, and thus part of the problem is that it's difficult to interpret, looking like it was written by a seven year-old. An illiterate one, at that. So, it's possible that upon close questioning, some of the more poorly written garbage of that post might actually turn out not to raise questions about beliefs about the ontology of the Second Person of the Most Holy Trinity.
But, especially in light of evil postings about Jesus and Mary, one must proceed with caution, and seriously entertain the notion that the post is cultic, gnostic nonsense, having nothing to do with Christianity.
I'm not ruling out the possibility of an extremely... *heterodox* form of Christian. But you are too glib with your acceptance of self-assertions.
I had a friend when I was in graduate school (the second time). He also said he loved Jesus. I counted him my best friend in school. We took all our classes together, and we always got on project teams together. We always watched each other’s back, because we knew that we could rely on each other. He, of course, believed very strongly that he was a Christian.
But he was a member of the LDS, and thus, I couldn't credit him with belonging to the Body of Christ.
He was a great guy, I loved him like a brother. But...
That doesn't mean that I entirely rule him out as possibly being a member of the Body of Christ. I sometimes wonder whether God can see a devout Mormon so trying to love God that God overlooks the completely defective construct that the LDS have of God, and hears his prayers.
But it is speculation on my part as to whether this is possible, whether God condescends to this degree. I believe that God is Love, and that God desires so much for each and every heart to be united with His.
But I'm not God, and I can't say what God does with such an individual as my LDS friend.
Certainly, the LDS organization is not Christian. Certainly, my friend did NOT hold Christian belief. But he DID really love Jesus.
I don't know.
sitetest
Do not mangle poster’s handles.
“But “Mary’s image in things like stains on floors” is too far out.”
Maybe so, but there was a FR thread about it as well. Besides, it’s not non-Catholics who claimed to see it.
Holy Virgin appears on Bogota hospital floor
http://colombiareports.com/colombia-news-lite/97-news/9434-holy-virgin-appears-in-bogota-hospital-floor.html
Holy Virgin appears on Bogota hospital floor
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2545985/posts
Quix’s post:6. I believe that they are part and parcel of the Biblical END TIMES GREAT DECEPTION BECAUSE they will be extremely persuasive about “creating man,” bioengineering all the religious greats of history—FOR SOCIAL ENGINEERING PURPOSES—including Jesus—performing miracles through their technologies—and purportedly having very convincing 3D holographic “histories” “proving” such.
MB:Jesus was bioengineered by UFOs? I can see why you often side with anti Christians on many of these threads.
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Did you actually READ what the comment said? Or is this just another knee jerk reaction to something Quix posted to try to discredit him?
Could you translate that please? It's so vague as to be about meaningless.
What’s celiac got to do with transubstantiation?
Yes, Mark, be more careful:
It says the “will” not “did”.
That makes is less anti-Christian. But no less weird.
MarkBsnr:YOUR BRAZEN ASSERTION BELOW IS THOROUGHLY 100% INACCURATE.
Not only is he a FREEPER, I have met & talked with him in person at an Aztec Conference--before I knew he was also a FREEPER. He may not respond soon. I don't know how much time he spends on FR. I could also believe that he might think such an accusation was not worthy his responding. He may also not wish to out his FR screenname though it is not all that super secret in its design. Las Vegas Dave can also vouch for his authenticity.
MarkBsnr: An appeal to the authority of a non existent expert. Par for the course.
I will ping him to your post but I won't blame him if he avoids responding.
He is, BTW, A ROMAN CATHOLIC.
Jesse, sorry to bother you--however, one of your . . . less than saintly co-religionist Roman Catholics insists that you are a nonexistent authority. I would appreciate it, if you'd delcare him wrong. Of course, you may feel free to declare him other things, if you wish--though there are some rules on the Religion Forum.
I would not expect an apology from the co-Roman Catholic. Most of that ilk on such threads seem to be allergic to apologies.
This post is referring to what I said about you in post #3,052 which I will paste in below as well. If I've said anything inaccurate below, please correct it:
16. One of our own FREEPERS was the 10-11 year old son of Jesse Marcel Sr . . . the son . . . who is now a VERY decorated Army MD surgeon who at more than 70 years, IIRC, did more than one tour in Iraq because his specialty was in such short supply. It was he who, when he was that child was awakened in the middle of the night by his dad who was on the dad’s way to taking samples of the Roswell debris back to the base. Jesse Jr handled both the foil that returned to it’s shape when crumpled as well as the light weight metal “I” beam with very strange symbols on it.
17. ANYONE calling me a liar about such would, essentially, also be calling this highly decorated FREEPER Army MD Iraq Vet a liar about his experiences when he was 10-11 years old.
BTW, Jesse, I heard recently something new on one of the Project Camelot interviews on youtube . . . that something of that debris had been buried--privately. I wasn't clear if it was buried by your dad or whom. Have you heard anything like that?
Yes, I get weary of such frequent/common jerk-face assertions about your non-existence on such threads, too.
It sounds like he holds the position that demonic activity is what’s behind the UFO phenomena.
You gotta quit that.
You’re raising the average score of your co-religionists by persistently being so sane and reasonable. What will they think! I’d hate for them to consign you to a Proddy out-group on general principles of being toooooo atypical.
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Did you READ what the comment said?
I pray your son in law is doing splendidly health wise.
Uh, yeah. That’s a start.
Did you get to the part about aliens finding women with false pregnancies and having sex with them, then inducing visions of delivery and pretending to kidnap the non-existent baby for coercion?
I don't know how much about Him Jesus expects us to get right. I'm pretty confident most Mormons don't get a lot right.
I've been married 35 years and I STILL don't have a clue who it is I married. .... But I love her, whoever she is.
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