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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]

Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)


TOPICS: Activism; Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
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To: presently no screen name; Pyro7480; caww

Did he tell you he didn’t know that Scripture existed?

If not, you are reading his mind.

Also, there are differences in interpretations of Scripture, as everyone on this forum has known for eons now.


2,401 posted on 09/08/2010 12:35:24 PM PDT by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words: "It's too late"))
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To: D-fendr
I'm confused. Are you saying you agree with Roamer_1 that the Lord's Day on Sunday is a violation of God's commandments?

I'm sorry I wasn't clearer.

I don't believe it is because during the Apostolic Era and immediately following Christians worshiped on both Saturday and Sunday. I was injecting into the discussion that the controversy probably really got started because a pagan emperor set a day of worship for Christians.

2,402 posted on 09/08/2010 12:41:16 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: caww
God does not judge by external appearances

Do you not bathe and wear your good clothes to Church? Why?

2,403 posted on 09/08/2010 12:41:40 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Running On Empty
It is always a good thing to take scripture within it's context....that was surely done with the scripture reference. Including reading the prior chapter and following...

Scripture is of no private interpretation therefore three things come to mind...One, someone is wrong,... Two, how it is applied....Three, pulling out of context.

With this Chapter and verses it has a crescendo affect.

2,404 posted on 09/08/2010 12:44:11 PM PDT by caww
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To: metmom

It’s All Saints’ Church in Wittenberg, Germany. It has been extensively renovated over the centuries to give it a decidedly Protestant “flavor” (much of the renovation was actually necessitated by extensive damage, including a fire, during the Seven Years War).


2,405 posted on 09/08/2010 12:45:03 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: D-fendr

Now you are being quite silly...for want of a more precise word.


2,406 posted on 09/08/2010 12:45:21 PM PDT by caww
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To: D-fendr
Should the place of worship where Jesus is present be kept un-beautiful?

Jesus is with me 24/7 and I'm not a really good looking guy. I worship Him all day long.

I think there is a human desire to build large beautiful churches not so much to honor Jesus Christ, but to project status and authority.

2,407 posted on 09/08/2010 12:45:40 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: Running On Empty
Did he tell you he didn’t know that Scripture existed? If not, you are reading his mind.

In fact Christ Himself was, per the bible, not much to look at

Where does it say that?
2,342 posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2010 2:32:07 PM by Pyro7480


Does that heal you thin 'reading mind' skin?
2,408 posted on 09/08/2010 12:46:10 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: bronx2; Religion Moderator; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; ...

While you’re at it, RM,

How about considering this sort of post . . . a frequent type by this poster . . .

essentially judging some Proddy’s Salvation as being nonexistent etc. etc. etc.

Seems like an exceedingly outrageous sort of making it personal = to saying the Proddy is going to hell unless the Proddy complies with the RC poster’s sentiments and instructions.


2,409 posted on 09/08/2010 12:46:58 PM PDT by Quix (C Bosses plans: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: wmfights

INDEED.


2,410 posted on 09/08/2010 12:47:48 PM PDT by Quix (C Bosses plans: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: metmom
The place should be kept neat, clean, and in good repair. Beauty is secondary. It's just outward appearances.

I think you're right. It's the heart that matters.

2,411 posted on 09/08/2010 12:47:54 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: metmom

For me, Christ’s comment that the Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath

settles it.


2,412 posted on 09/08/2010 12:48:32 PM PDT by Quix (C Bosses plans: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: D-fendr

That question is so good you have no chance of getting a direct answer.


2,413 posted on 09/08/2010 12:49:35 PM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Quix
the emphasis was on WORSHIPPING GOD AND PUTTING THE MONEY INTO HELPING THE POOR AND INTO MISSIONARY WORK.

Aimee McPherson's Foursquare Angelus Temple in LA was more about fame and Hollywood. Both before and after she was "kidnapped."

2,414 posted on 09/08/2010 12:49:49 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: caww
Thank you for the link of which I will study later Old Reggie.....but I am interested in the degree of international influence the Roman Catholic Church does have...we know it has tentacles... but to where and what end they have determined I am interested in...though much has been behind the scenes, with computers etc. it has become far more difficult for these things to remain in seclusion.

I'm not certain my link will be of much help to you. Suffice to say no Pope has ever renounced the "world power" goals of the RCC. The "tiny" Vatican is tiny only because the Vatican Armies lost the wars.
2,415 posted on 09/08/2010 12:51:12 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: Quix; bronx2

It’s pretty ironic considering the howling that occurs when a proddy makes some comment about some Catholic’s eternal destiny.

Like Mother Teresa.....


2,416 posted on 09/08/2010 12:51:12 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: wmfights; NYer; Salvation; Pyro7480; Coleus; narses; annalex; Campion; don-o; Mrs. Don-o; ...
It's been said numerous times over the years, but I'll say it again. The unity among Evangelicals is our belief in The Gospel.

Odd how I use the term Protestant and you switch to Evangelical. I would have to say that the vast majority of Protestants would not call themselves and could not be described as Evangelicals in the American sense.

As far as your belief in the Gospel, if you get far beyond the Apostles Creed or Nicene Creed (both of which Catholics and Orthodox also believe), you will find a great deal of disagreement.

After that we may have a lot of different opinions, but we stand united in our belief in The Gospel and because of it we are the Body of Christ.

The beliefs are often quite conflicting and anything but unified. Would you care to explain how High Church Anglicans and Southern Baptists have "unified" beliefs about the Eucharist or Baptism?

2,417 posted on 09/08/2010 12:51:30 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: OLD REGGIE
"When this "Church" disbands it's Diplomatic Corp and it's "observer" seat in the United Nations."

You apparently missed WWII. It was in all of the papers.

2,418 posted on 09/08/2010 12:51:47 PM PDT by Natural Law (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: D-fendr
Here's the title:

http://www.amazon.com/Ten-Meditations-Mysteries-Rosary-Ferraro/dp/0819801577/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1272938246&sr=1-2

And it carries the official sanctions of:

ni•hil ob•stat
n.
1. Roman Catholic Church An attestation by a church censor that a book contains nothing damaging to faith or morals.
2. Official approval, especially of an artistic work.

WITH RICHARD CARDINAL CUSHING’S IMPRIMATUR

Let me track down the brief portion of quotes upthread . . .

Here they are:

However, as we've seen through a variety of sources--a pile of them in Ferraro's manual about the Rosary--the Roman Catholic et al/Vatican Edifice disagrees with a lot of the claims of RC's hereon to the contrary.

p.32
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[Quixicated emphases below]
Mary is crowned Queen of heaven and earth, dispenser of all graces . . .

p32
4 - She became Queen of Purgatory, where she exercises her power as mediatrix in behalf of these suffering souls.

5 - She became Queen of us sinners, to assist us through the dangers of this life and to help us in difficulties.

6 - She became the ruler of hell, that trembles at her slightest gaze and is defeated by her power.

"Just as a rock extracted from earth will precipitate into the abyss, so will man, left without Mary's help, quickly slide toward hell." --Richard of St Victor

p37
Sacred Heart of Jesus, Thy kingdom come; Thy kingdom come through Mary! --Partial Indulgence

p41
"Mary is the tree of life to those who grasp her, and he is happy who hold her fast." --Prov. 3:18

p43
1 - "Hail Mary, beloved daughter of the Father, Mother of the Divine Son, Spouse of the Holy Spirit, complement of the most august Trinity!"

p45
6 - To her was granted grace greater than that conferred upon all others, 'that she might vanquish sin in every respect.'
.
[Qx: I guess Christ's vanquishing sin was unnecessary--or ineffectual without Mary's assistance?]

p46
7 - "Mary is the dawn of God because, just as the dawn marks the end of darkness and the beginning of day, so Mary indicates the end of vices and the beginning of virtue."
.
[Qx: I guess Christ's conquering on The Cross and HIS conquering trip to hell were unncessary?]

9 - God loved Mary so much that He gave her the keys to His heart. 'No one can go to God without Mary drawing him.'
.
[Qx: I guess Holy Spirit has been relegated to a 'Walter Mitty' role as spouse of Mary? That's SOME POWER to cancel & take over HOLY SPIRIT'S role to draw men to God!]

p47
4 - "Mary, trusting in the word of the angel, destroyed the sin Eve committed by trusting in the serpent.'
.
[Qx: Evidently, she beat Christ to the job of vanquishing sin!]

5 - "She desired the safety of everyone, went in search of it, and obtained it; it was also through her that this salvation was wrought."
.
[QX: What an unnecessary waste of precious Blood and suffering on THE CROSS!!!/sar]

p47
10 - "As Noah's Ark saved all the animals that entered it, so Mary saves all the souls that entrust themselves to her care."

p50
8 - "If she were not so holy as she is, how could God appoint her to be the ladder of Paradise, the advocate of the world, meatrix between HIm and us?"

p50
4 - "By becoming Mother of God, Mary belongs to the order of hypostatic union; hence she participates IN the infinite sanctity of God."

2,419 posted on 09/08/2010 12:51:55 PM PDT by Quix (C Bosses plans: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: metmom

ironic

is FAR tooooo weak a word.

LOL.


2,420 posted on 09/08/2010 12:52:40 PM PDT by Quix (C Bosses plans: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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