Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
UNMITIGATED BALDERDASH AND BEARING FALSE WITNESS
YET AGAIN.
St. Groundhog’s Day..........I got you, Babe.
VERY WELL PUT.
I prefer not respond to your 'show me' questions....these have been responded to and debated many times, by many posters, on religious threads and hardly comic-book articles, though as usual some of those trickle in. But what I woud say again is Clearly and most profoundly understood, that 'Christ' is to be worshiped above all others...and there is nothing in scripture that God elevates Mary to the extreme position the catholic church has.
I am not anti-catholic but I certainly will go up against what I see goes against Gods word regardless of the church affiliation....It's disturbing when anyone who disagrees with catholic doctrine is labeled as so...it makes catholics look like whinning victims... if they are Christians that is not the stance Christ called them to be in the face of conflict...truth can and does always stand..it does not creep behind a veil of anti-anything to protect itself.....it stands firm...always.
You stated..." the left attacks Catholicism because they believe that if they destroy the Catholic Church that all other Christians will just give up."
The left may believe that but all other Christians do not base their beliefs, or the survival on what happens to the catholic church....we understand the garbage needs to be taken out in 'all' churches who have brought it in... and that includes all churches who have allowed and enabled the body of believers to be infected by worldly ideas and behavior... again..none are exempt if they are His.
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Excellent post. I have done my best to ignore this thread, because of its ridiculous subject, but your post is simply outstanding.
Getting the premise wrong negates the entirety of your argument. Catholics NO NOT worship Mary, we venerate her. Game, set, and match.
AMEN!
On essentials, unity. On non-essentials, diversity through freedom of conscience.
But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God." -- 2 Corinthians 4:1-2"Therefore seeing we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we faint not;
Why do Protestants trust the believer's conscience? Because it comes from God. A Christian's mind has been renewed by the Holy Spirit to know the things of God. Therefore, we trust in His guidance. And that guidance is found in the Scriptures, made known to us by the Holy Spirit's teaching.
"For by the Scripture as our guide and teacher, God not only makes those things plain which would otherwise escape our notice, but almost compels us to behold them; as if he had assisted our dull sight with spectacles." -- JOHN CALVIN "Commentary on Genesis" Vol. I
INDEED TO THE MAX:
Few would have needed the article in the beginning of this thread to understand that the worship of Mary is not and was never intended to be included with our worship of Christ...we can honor her role but not to the extent the catholic articles posted throughout this thread have revealed.
I prefer not respond to your ‘show me’ questions....these have been responded to and debated many times, by many posters, on religious threads and hardly comic-book articles, though as usual some of those trickle in. But what I woud say again is Clearly and most profoundly understood, that ‘Christ’ is to be worshiped above all others...and there is nothing in scripture that God elevates Mary to the extreme position the catholic church has.
I am not anti-catholic but I certainly will go up against what I see goes against Gods word regardless of the church affiliation....It’s disturbing when anyone who disagrees with catholic doctrine is labeled as so...it makes catholics look like whinning victims... if they are Christians that is not the stance Christ called them to be in the face of conflict...truth can and does always stand..it does not creep behind a veil of anti-anything to protect itself.....it stands firm...always.
You stated...” the left attacks Catholicism because they believe that if they destroy the Catholic Church that all other Christians will just give up.”
The left may believe that but all other Christians do not base their beliefs, or the survival on what happens to the catholic church....we understand the garbage needs to be taken out in ‘all’ churches who have brought it in... and that includes all churches who have allowed and enabled the body of believers to be infected by worldly ideas and behavior... again..none are exempt if they are His.
Makes me think of a man who sat in the front pew every Sunday, he was a big burley man... his only prayer week after week...year after year was... "Thank you Jesus"... He understood fully the wonder of Christ...and it humbled Him before His Saviour. He got it.
AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!
I have to, but for whatever the reason I clicked on it and saw an all-too-familiar name as the author and poster.
Was that really necessary?
Yes, I had completely forgotten that the person who started this thread was Hank. Your post was spot-on.
Hey, people post strange things when they have nothing to say and insist on saying it anyway! ;-)
ok..you made your statement as if your view of Mary wasn’t already known...and your arguements equally as much. I don’t need a re-run, but thank you for your interest.
OF course we know the difference...We also know that praying to a statue of Mary and asking that she give you grace, or that she keep you safe at night is not veneration...It's worship...
Any other questions???
A rose by any other name.....
Making statues of people, lighting candles in front of them, praying to them, attributing special supernatural powers to them,... It's all worship.
Relating to them in the way that one should only relate to God is worship.
Game, set, and match.
Fail..... You proved nothing.
And it is not finessing the guidelines because I have instructed posters to use the words "false" "error" "wrong" instead of "lie."
However, if it is used repeatedly as if to badger another poster then it would be making the thread "about" another Freeper which is also a form of "making it personal."
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