Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
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Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
If I didn’t know better, I’d think someone just called you insane.
Then those who are still holding a grudge have not truly forgiven.
That's a very good question. If one is in a state of sin and then asks for repentence for that sin to Almighty God, then we follow Christ. It is when we sin and do not repent, that we miss the mark of Christ. The Judgement will be on all of our deeds; we read it as mitigated by our repentence. Does that help?
This is what you wrote, Mark. It's an accusation. It is not a question.
MARK BSNR: "Having a problem with alcoholic beverages? We’ll pray for you. Thanks for admitting it in a public forum. Which step is this, by the way?"
Posts like yours, filled with lies and venom, do not bring honor to the Religion Forum. They disgrace it. Post like yours are geared for getting threads pulled, obviously hoping to get similar posts in response.
We're not going to do that, Mark. These disgusting, lying posts are all yours.
Very good. Trying for a second stripe?
From lots of practice both on this thread and from what I recall dealing with Catholics in real life. There’s no difference.
And they wonder why people leave the Catholic church. Any church which claims to be Christian and doesn’t make an appreciable difference in how people lead their everyday lives doesn’t deserve the designation of *Christian* and is not one I’d stay with no matter what the denominational affiliation.
I'll call the waaaahhhhmbulance for you.
Evidently the head harpy doesn't believe that she needs to follow the rules.
our conversations are over. I have deliberately ignored you for years, and in fact I dont believe you were even pinged when you answered a post of mine and called me what you did. Otherwise I would have ignored you per usual. by their fruits you will know them.
If many of the Protestants on this thread were my only examples of what it is to be a “Christian”, I’d walk away. Even when they aren’t trolling Catholic themed threads.
You know, you're right. I am still hacked off. Let's have the Reformed do a Kumbaya circle and repudiate that document. Whaddya say?
Like to like.
We're not going to do that, Mark. These disgusting, lying posts are all yours.
They are obviously getting a little too close to the bullseye.
Let me help you with the rules.
We cannot call an individual FReeper “insane.” Nor any of the other foul, disgusting names people like MarkBsnr call other people which breaks the rules.
We can, however, call posts “insane.”
As in “Many of Mark’s snotty, empty, insipid posts are insane.”
Hope this helps.
You're never going to get that second stripe.
It's not about what they believe - it's about their anti Catholicism.
Rome is dwindling. And as you say, from these threads we can see why.
We all know your posts are insane, Mark. To note that is not against the rules.
Learn them.
Oh goody. The #1 rulebreaker is going to help with the rules.
We cannot call an individual FReeper “insane.” Nor any of the other foul, disgusting names people like MarkBsnr call other people which breaks the rules.
I call you the good Dr. E. Disgusting and repulsive, isn't it?
We can, however, call posts “insane.”
Stamping our little feet during the process?
As in “Many of Mark’s snotty, empty, insipid posts are insane.”
Wahhhh, mods, Mark is picking on me.
Hope this helps.
Like a mother in law visit.
I do not take or eschew action at the bidding of the likes of you.
Learn the rules, Mark, and stop breaking them. Your witless defense of your faith simply illustrates Rome does not prepare Christians but malcontents.
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