Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
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Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
Some seem to be more drunk on rageaholism and bitterness, resentment than on alcohol, even.
But then we're told that Saint Paul's epistles aren't actually Scripture...they should have just written a new book like the Mormons did.
As Protestants with Gnosticism?
well just *one* scandal old Pristine has had to deal with is the alcoholic priesthood, so they set the example, drink all week, confess, and start up again
Sure seems to be the pattern.
Just call it heresy, many of The Reformed® have never even seen a dictionary and they have no clue what gnosticism is.
Huh? I guess you're not a Calvinist, since the God you describe is clearly the God of Jonathan Edwards, et al. It's the Catholics on this thread who have been insisting (in the face of opposition from the Calvinists and possibly others) that God is love.
Let's see. We can deal with people who are having a crisis of faith. Or we can deal with the Reformed who don't believe in the Christian faith at all, but in esoteric hallucination. Hmmm. It's easier dealing with crises in faith than paganism. Sorry about your luck. Like the agnostic, Rome knows nothing for certain.
Yeah, but we're betting on Calvinist Judgement. You guys are handicapped pretty severely, but we think that you'll cover the spread.
We're wondering about LSD usage in the Pentecostal movement, ourselves...
The first miracle at the wedding at Canaan was an acknowledgment that sometimes even the most devout need some assistance tolerating the lies of the anti-Catholics.
I am told we have the bible thanks to the catholic church..so I guess that means Rome is fallible afterall
Cheers!
I don’t know, Mark. Something might be in the wafers, with all the Mary in the toast, Mary in the fencepost, Mary in the crockpot visions that keep so many Catholics in rapturous wonderment.
.Mark =Yes, we understand that your religion is of your own making and your god is what you create. We get it and while there are many ex Catholics who succumb to the urge to create their own god, there are that many more who accept and worship God. We are Moses, spiritually attached to God, and the children of the Reformation are Aaron, making the golden calf to satisfy their own whims and immediate desires. We get that. And we appreciate that you have illuminated the distinction.
Mark why do you go to church on Sundays ?
"..I'm tired and need a drink. We'll say Paul wrote these 7 and..whose name haven't we used yet..we need an author for HEBREWS people...step it up here..."
Hey, I call 'em like I see 'em! ;-)
BTW, I recently saw a reference (somewhere on the Internet) to some debate in the early Church as to whether the Jewish scriptures should be accepted at all by the Christian Church. But it was just a passing reference. Do you know anything about this, who might have written on it (either primary or secondary source)? I'd like to know more about it but don't know where to start.
That is backwards Kosta..
Worship IS adoration ..praising God for who He is and all His works..
Prayer should contain some worship (Adoration) , but also consists of confession, thanksgiving and supplication
The fact that this is not understood points to agnosticism not faith
The fact that some will take instruction from one that doubts Gods existence speaks for itself..
Oh, man, I hope that the Canadian Club distributor delivers. You’re gonna be out by supper time at this rate.
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