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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief

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To: metmom; MarkBsnr; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...

Catholics seem to have some real serious control issues.


Great nominee for understatement of the century.

Witness the demand for an apology for something I didn’t do coupled with the refusal to apologize for something very UnChristian that the !!!!DEMANDER!!!! DID DO!

Talk about !!!!CONTROL!!!! freaqueism! Sheesh.


12,841 posted on 10/18/2010 9:11:41 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Jaded; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; ...

How is all Proddys or Evangelicals worshipping Jesus of
Bethlehem, Nazareth and the Right Hand of The Father

worshipping some’thing’ different???

Oh, I get it . . . just because RC’s worship myriad saints, Mary, THE INSTITUTION, the dogma, the rituals, the icons, the statues, . . . etc. etc. etc. yada yada yada

y’all must automatically think that we Proddys have to be worshipping each a different ET named Jesus????

Wow . . . I didn’t realize that RC fantasies and idiocies could reach such a low!


12,842 posted on 10/18/2010 9:16:03 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix
No thin skin at all.

Possibly the thinnest on the RF.

It just seems exceedingly fitting for you to be called to account to your own tyrannical standards.

And you're just the poster to do it, along with your ping list, right?

I’m merely repeatedly asking you to apologize for something quite UnChristian that you did do—accused me of something I did NOT do.

And I asked you first to apologize for backing a poster with a hate speech posting - whereafter she apologised and you didn't.

I think the hypocrisy is quite illustrative and worth some multiple opportunities for lurkers to learn of such character qualities by the frequent RC posters hereon.

I'm sure that most lurkers have already made up their mind about me. Interestingly enough, I've had support from people that I've never noticed before. Most of them not Catholics, by the way. For which I am grateful.

Besides, I think it’s one of the more loving things to do to give folks a repeated opportunity to apologize when fitting.

Do you believe and feel it too?

12,843 posted on 10/18/2010 9:16:45 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (A puritan is a person who pours righteous indignation into the wrong things.)
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To: Quix
y’all must automatically think that we Proddys have to be worshipping each a different ET named Jesus????

Not ALL Protestants, of course not. The ET worshippers appear to be in the minority.

12,844 posted on 10/18/2010 9:19:31 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (A puritan is a person who pours righteous indignation into the wrong things.)
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To: smvoice
Funny, everything we believe is knowable. It's called The Bible.

Do you believe everything exactly the same as Lutherans (WHICH Lutherans?), Presbyterians (WHICH Presbyterians?) Baptists (Which Baptists?) and Pentecostals (WHICH Pentecostals?).

I honestly did not know that everything you [all] believe is knowable, because you [all] disagree on the Bible interpretations.

12,845 posted on 10/18/2010 9:20:00 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Jaded
I should post the letter a mason wrote to the Masonic hierarchy when he left and his pointed statements on why he was leaving and found Masonary in direct opposition to Christianity. I have to think about that....

Most who leave or have discomfort about rarely speak out...goes with the oath-taking...which instills fears for some....others just laugh it off...but if one is a Christian the rituals are a direct affront to Christ... so there is a heightened sensitivity as they enter these rituals and attempt to go thru them.

12,846 posted on 10/18/2010 9:20:00 PM PDT by caww
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To: kosta50; boatbums
You don't understand: not "little," there is nothing extra biblical about any of them. I don;t deny everything about the Christians faith. Obviously there are some early references to Christians and their practices form non-Chritsian sources, indirectly more than directly.

But as far as the apostles are concerned there is zilch. If you can find factual extra-biblical, extra-Christian mention of any of them I would be much obliged if you shared them with all.

If you're not going to accept the veracity Scripture on its own merit as Scripture, then what's the point of going after non-Scriptural sources? At best, they'd be no more reliable than the books of the Bible. At worst, much less reliable.

Seems that you have it backwards if you're looking for non-Biblical sources to verify Scripture.

12,847 posted on 10/18/2010 9:26:44 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: MarkBsnr

Interesting the change in your wording.


19. Icon to the haughty tyrannical !!!!DEMAND!!!! for an apology for imagined wrongs that never happened.


12,848 posted on 10/18/2010 9:26:51 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: MarkBsnr

Masons oaths are nasty business...any who are thinking of joining should turn away from the idea of that as far as I’m concerned.


12,849 posted on 10/18/2010 9:28:23 PM PDT by caww
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To: Legatus; boatbums; smvoice; RnMomof7
*sigh*.....

I presumed that you'd understand what I was referring to. I guess I gave you too much credit for that.

2 Corinthians 11:3-5 But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent's cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ. For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough. But I do not think I am in the least inferior to those "super-apostles."

Galatians 1:6-9 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned! As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!

12,850 posted on 10/18/2010 9:33:37 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: MarkBsnr

Lest any of the lurkers think that only Protestants have clown *worship*, here are some links to *catholic clown mass*, which does indeed make a mockery of the crucifixion.

If the Eucharist is to be taken so seriously, this is an outrage and the predictable Catholic response is to ignore what makes the RCC look bad and focus all the attention on others with the *they do it too, only worse* tactic, which isn’t always the case.

http://thecatholiclibertarian.blogspot.com/2008/03/clown-mass.html

http://romancatholicblog.typepad.com/roman_catholic_blog/2006/12/a_sacrilegious_.html


12,851 posted on 10/18/2010 9:38:41 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Legatus
In these mega-threads I don't know that I've ever seen one Protestant correct another Protestant on a point of doctrine and what it really seems like is that as long as one isn't Catholic absolutely anything goes... as long as it doesn't look like it might be Catholic at which point it's "pagan, pagan, pagan".

Just because you haven't seen one (or remember one) doesn't mean it hasn't or won't happen. Maybe you just aren't looking for it.

12,852 posted on 10/18/2010 9:38:47 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: metmom; boatbums; smvoice; RnMomof7

So smvoice’s (I think that’s who it was, if I’ve got it wrong WOW am I sorry) assertion that Peter’s Gospel was different than Paul’s Gospel is... what, something you agree with or disagree with?


12,853 posted on 10/18/2010 9:41:38 PM PDT by Legatus (Keep calm and carry on)
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To: caww
Masons oaths are nasty business...any who are thinking of joining should turn away from the idea of that as far as I’m concerned.

Agreed. When I was away from the Church, I became a 32nd degree Scottish rite Freemason. When I came back to the Church, I quit the Masons. A saint of a pastor gently guided me in the ways of the Faith.

12,854 posted on 10/18/2010 9:42:49 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (A puritan is a person who pours righteous indignation into the wrong things.)
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To: Quix

Word it however you want. Are you going to man up and follow the good lady’s lead? She apologized; you defended her and didn’t apologize because it was just another anti Catholic attack and you wanted to be on board.


12,855 posted on 10/18/2010 9:44:16 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (A puritan is a person who pours righteous indignation into the wrong things.)
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To: presently no screen name

So this is what’s it’s all about? Do you have something ocnstructive to post or just have too much time to play games? If it’s the latter, thank you for your unsolicited input. Over and out.


12,856 posted on 10/18/2010 9:45:50 PM PDT by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: metmom
If the Eucharist is to be taken so seriously, this is an outrage and the predictable Catholic response is to ignore what makes the RCC look bad and focus all the attention on others with the *they do it too, only worse* tactic, which isn’t always the case.

I posted my revulsion to the Catholic clown masses. I just objected to Lutheran worship services (including that damnable large tortilla chip or whatever it was) being used to show purported Catholic clown masses. I'll say it again if you'd like - please try to imagine the appropriate gagging noises.

12,857 posted on 10/18/2010 9:48:17 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (A puritan is a person who pours righteous indignation into the wrong things.)
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To: D-fendr
This is true to some extent but not entirely. Usually you have other sources. For instance we know that Roman officials mention Christians, etc. Even Christians who did nothing spectacular. If the apostles were doing miracles, someone would have said something. Thus, you have Christian critics in the second century, all of which corroborates that Christians existed.

Archaeological evidence disputes Biblical evidence of Egyptian exile and Exodus, and for that matter most of Biblical history. Lack of evidence does not permit assuming a biased story is true. It doesn't have to be false, but cannot be treated as true, therefore questionable.

12,858 posted on 10/18/2010 9:54:27 PM PDT by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: metmom; Religion Moderator; boatbums
That's an intellectually dishonest portrayal of Paul's words

Accusing a Freeper of dishonesty is an ad hominem.

12,859 posted on 10/18/2010 9:57:59 PM PDT by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: boatbums
Just because you haven't seen one (or remember one) doesn't mean it hasn't or won't happen. Maybe you just aren't looking for it.

You're kidding right? I sit in waning hope that some Protestant will jump in and clean up messes because I know as soon as I pipe up ears, eyes, minds and hearts will shut simply because I'm a Catholic.

I sat here praying someone would address the Trinitarian/Incarnation confusion because I knew my stuff was just bouncing off the walls... it didn't happen. I reached the conclusion that trinitarian "heresy" just doesn't matter among American Protestants anymore because apparently as long as someone has a fuzzy belief that Jesus is the Son of God and doesn't approach Mormonism on the one side or Oneness Pentecostalism on the other then nothing matters. Although I think there are some Oneness people around who never get called on it by the "usual suspects" either.

I really believe that if I were to compile a list of the ancient heresies as formulated by the heresiarchs themselves and said "ok now, who adheres to any of these" people would come out of the woodwork to claim their particular peculiar beliefs, stare at each other and say nothing. But if I added "oh, and who here believes it is right to call Mary the Mother of God" all hell would break loose.

"Weird" beliefs don't matter around "here" as long as those weird beliefs don't smell of Catholicism.

12,860 posted on 10/18/2010 10:04:35 PM PDT by Legatus (Keep calm and carry on)
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