Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]
Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
I asked you, and you have not answered, what is true doctrine for YOU.
That's a laugh. The only point of commonality is an outspoken opposition to anything and all things Catholic. There is no commonality amongst your "unity in Christ" regarding the Trinity, no unity regarding the Real Presence, no unity regarding Immaculation of Mary, no unity regarding the primacy of the Gospels, and not any unity regarding Christ as opposed to the letters of St. Paul as the central theme of Christianity
Umm, in the case of televangelists, it is all big hair. In the case of the megachurch preachers, it is all money. In any case, it is the formula for personal wealth. It is money, it is all money.
When you are anti Catholic as opposed to pro God, what do you expect?
Sola Scriptura - Scripture Alone
Solus Christus - Christ Alone
Sola Gratia - Grace Alone
Sola Fide - Faith Alone
Soli Deo Gloria - The Glory of God Alone
Umm do you have unity with the sodomite priests? The adulteress priests? etc?
Mark please do not talk to us about money, the gold and art and furs of Rome yell too loud for you to have any veracity in that discussion..
This is where you expose the anti Catholic mindset. You appear fixated on Rome. Catholics are not. They are fixated on God. I would advise you to give up your hate and resentment. It would be far better and a load off of your soul.
The first being described as:
“It purports to have been written by “James the brother of the Lord”, i.e. the Apostle James the Less. It is based on the canonical Gospels which it expands with legendary and imaginative elements, which are sometimes puerile or fantastic.” (Catholic Encyclopedia)
and the second is a hodgepodge of unknown purpose.
Again, you expose your lack of knowledge. The Knight of Columbus a secret organization? I'd suspect that you are kidding us all, but given your posting history, perhaps not. I definitely say that it is not a secret organization. What proofs do you require?
Unity with sodomite priests? On what level?
Adulteress priests? Sorry, we don't have priestesses. Glad you've found what you sought.
Mark please do not talk to us about money, the gold and art and furs of Rome yell too loud for you to have any veracity in that discussion..
Funny, with the Pope living in a tiny apartment, and the Vatican mostly used as a university and a place where the faithful and the interested can go, I don't see the parallel between Benedict and any megapreacher. The Pope lives in tiny apartments half a century old. What does Rick Warren live in?
All evangelical protestants hold to the basic doctrines of the faith, as expressed in the ecumenical creeds, we are unified in Christ as Our Savior and Lord... we are IN Christ
...no unity regarding the Real Presence, no unity regarding Immaculation of Mary, no unity regarding the primacy of the Gospels, and not any unity regarding Christ as opposed to the letters of St. Paul as the central theme of Christianity
Unity in heresy is of course possible, but recent surveys show only about 30% of catholics believe in the "real presence" I am thinking they all post here.. LOL
The catholic church claims unity, but the truth is the majority of catholics do not go to weekly mass, do not hold to the churches teachings on the infallibility of the pope on matters of faith and doctrine.. and things like birth control ...
There is no unity in the catholic church, it is all smoke and mirrors
If anyone of them "Alone" is enough why do you need five of them?
Thanks. However, my point is that elements of the Protoevangelium and other writings formed the basis of the Faith before the Gospels and other NT writings were completed.
I didn’t even finish the first one. I was just stuffing a very virtuous salad into my face in the hour between Mass and RCIA and grabbed the book of the shelf. Telling and funny.
Mark it is the Roman Catholic church, headquartered in ..not NYC or Toronto ..but on Rome..
Rome is an appropriate name for doctrines that flow from Rome ....I do not hate catholics, I hate the deception that will cost men their eternity , I have a huge sadness for those in Catholicism. On the day of their death they will learn the truth, and it will be too late..
Negative. There are none that hold to the original teachings or meaning of the Creed. You, yourself, have expressed Trinitarian heresy with some force, may I add.
There is no unity in the catholic church, it is all smoke and mirrors
And this is justification for theology pulled from your navel and from between your teeth this very morning? Every morning - as Martin Luther predicted.
If the ancient writings that are considered fallible are not held to the level of infallible Scripture, then tradition ought to be under even more scrutiny. It seriously ought to be held to a much higher level of proof. That done, the best that they could reasonably expect is that oral tradition could only rise to the level of that of the fallible wirtings and not the infallible
ABSOLUTELY INDEED.
Which would be engaging in deceit. Not possible for someone who is considered sinless.
YUP.
WELL PUT.
So then you have no problem posting your oath right ?
For alerting us to, informing us of and
DEMONSTRATING the 18th Station
OF the Stations of the White Hanky:
18. THE ICON to the VATICAN SELECTIVE-SLICE-N-DICE SAMBA READING of the early Christian writers.
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