Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
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Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
LOL! The statement in question was over "The Bible in its entirety", not "The Gospels in their entirety".
I'm using your logic. You are my cite:
All things are of Gods ordination…
and
…this like all events are for the Glory of God
And I ask you to defend the statement that your church reads from and encourages non-Christian, pagan, and non-theistic readings during church.
Leg to stand?
Does that make the Reformed either honorary or active members of the order of Goofy?
One of the most charismatic Catholics I've seen is Father John Corapi. Are there more like him? Bring 'em out, I say.
Has Jesus sat on the Throne and Judged you yet? No. Therefore these things are in the future for both you and me.
So really anyone can get to heaven by just living the Golden rule of Matt 25, correct?
Where did Christ say that?
It's actually interesting that they talk so much about 'salvation'. Just as one might be admitted to the mysteries to be given the secret knowledge which would lead to immortality, they focus on being saved. It's the ultimate tit-for-tat. And they encourage this manipulative attitude. It's "if you died right now, would you be saved?" It's "What's in it for me?" as the primary motivation for Christianity.
I don't think that's what's in their hearts, but it's certainly what's in their words.
I suspect that in some cases what is in their hearts is far more toxic than the venom which spews from their lips.
No connection. She is an opera singer who has performed in Europe and is continuing for her masters in music along with being a lead singer in a new band.
She came to the decision to covert to Orthodox on her own through historical studies since music is so deep in history with the Church
Yes He certainly has...
You are still on the wrong side of the Cross...
Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Rom 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
Rom 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
The judgment you speak of in Matthew is future...It WILL take place and apparently you guys will be there...
We Christians will never see that judgment...We have been judged already...
I am fully aware about what you were quibbling about. My point is that it doesn't pass the "so what" test. Christianity is about the WORD not the "words".
Yes, I've noticed that. Not nearly so pronounced among the non-Calvinists, though, for whom love of God (and -- concommitantly -- of neighbor) seem to hold more sway.
Let me attempt to clear the air:
As far as I can tell, even if one went to Mass daily for three years AND prayed the entire Divine Office (as it is currently promulgated in the US) one would not read or hear the entire bible. One would not get the entire Gospels, and not even the entire Psalter — which irritates me. Part of the fallout of Vatican II involved skipping the ‘difficult’ verses of the Psalms. Pah!
However, one would get substantial chunks of the Gospels and Epistles, and a decent amount of the rest.
So the oft made claim, in all its versions (like reading the office gets you the entire Psalter) is false, IMHO.
Each is an "Alter Goofus", or is it "In Persona Goofi".
In Coverdale’s mistranslation of Ps 36:1: My heart showeth me the wickedness of the ungodly.
I have no business talking about their hearts, despite what our Lord says about what comes out of a man. I have this log in my eye. MAN it hurts when I bump into stuff!
(Sorry. I have these piety attacks.)
The third chapter of the Epistle of James is also very illuminating on this matter.
Nope...Catholicism is about the Word...Christianity is about the words...What good will the Word do us if we don't have the words spoken by the Word???
Psa 138:2 I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name.
Joh 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
Faith comes by hearing; THE WORDS...
I think we are asked to consider that if we find a scrap of papyrus with the note "Publius owes Quintus 5 drachmas for a dairy cow," it can have determinative authority in determining the price of milch cows in the first century.
But a scrap saying, "Linus, bishop of Rome, joined us at the house of Horatius and we celebrated the mystery in which the Lord was present under the forms of bread and wine," since it is not 'inspired', it is of no authority whatsoever in determining the thought and practice of the first century Church.
Worth a repost :)
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