Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
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Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
You were expecting what from Baylor?
No, I'm pretty sure that disdain is leveled at the Bible itself. He dismisses most of it as "Pauline" nonsense and Old Testament inconsequentials.
"Paul does not subscribe to the Nicene Trinitarian view of Christianity. Neither do the Synoptic Gospels, by the way. It is in John that we find some evidence of the Triune God, with the Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit co equal, co existing, and co eternal members of One God. Paul definitely is not Trinitarian." -- Posted by MarkBsnr on April 24, 2010.
its a good one
So I'll ask you. What is the Gospel?
8~)
Love the kitt pic. My cat makes that face...
Do you not realize literalism was not the point in question and that if “biblical literalism is childish?” then ALL literalism is likewise?
But of course the assumption that figurative expressions were taken literally is what is really childish.
This has gotten completely STUPID. Scriptures are GIVEN and they are ignored by the very people who “claim” their church WROTE the Bible.
We'll miss you. Eventually.
Unlike bible corruptors, I don't add words where they don't belong to prove something that is not true...You added 'salvation', not I...
So who has read Haggai lately? Answer: those of us who read “the Office of Readings.”
Great question! I don't think you will get a Scriptural response. I've come to realize that it is not taught in that church. If they did teach it and believe it a great many of their customs would fall away.
Gracious!
We used to say in seminary,”You’ll find the text sheds great light on the commentaries.”
Perhaps I missed your sources and their “evidence” for your assertion that the apostle a John was “a myth” and
“It is therefore without any doubt that prosopos is to be understood in Greek, in context, as either the face or an individual (person).”
“No, they simply point to the fact that “John's” Gospel is an interpolation which is not obvious to an average uneducated reader.”
“What do you really know about Christ except from a select number of books the Church picked for you? Books that have no basis in fact and events no one else has recorded”.
Yes, I, being the “average uneducated reader”, must have completely overlooked all that “verifiable evidence”.
tsk, tsk
So you would agree that Martin Luther corrupted the Bible when he added the word "alone" to Romans 3:28 and that this corruption resulted in the unbiblical and heretical man-made doctrine of sola fide?
You added 'salvation', not I...
What were you speaking of if not our ultimate salvation or damnation? Is anything else actually that important?
The Gospel is the written record of Christ's words and deeds. It communicates the gifts of God to all men. The Gospel (Greek - Euaggelion, Latin - Evangelium) is the source of all saving truth and moral discipline. Only four books of the Bible are identified as such, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.
This has gotten completely STUPID. Scriptures are GIVEN and they are ignored by the very people who “claim” their church WROTE the Bible.
INDEED.
“There you go again.”. Repeating the thesis does not constitute an argument.
My marriage analogy was made to civil, not ecclesiastical law.
I see that we disagree. No amount of repetition can make that any clearer. You define the word “apostle” your way. I don’t think that definition makes sense.
“”So, salvation is based on faith AND works.””
Our works grounded in love are in union (synergistically) with the will of God,it’s not that we “change God” or change the essence of God-which is love
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