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To: CynicalBear

Pardon me for interjecting. I’m sure you will get several; the unfruitful fig tree comes to mind. Also when Christ spoke to the good, believing follower and told him he needed to DO more by leaving his family and following Him. The many times Christ talked about having to TAKE UP the cross and FOLLOW Him. These comments all highlight the importance of what we DO. Backsliders have a problem.

But I wanted to add these: In Revelations 20:12 we learn that in Heaven there is a book of life and the dead are judged by what they’d DONE (not believed, but done). We also hear in Revelations 14:13 that “their deeds follow them.”


25 posted on 08/21/2010 11:02:41 AM PDT by Melian ("There is only one tragedy in the end, not to have been a saint." ~L. Bloy)
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To: Melian

First off: Any idea that leads one to believe that a person has to earn any part of their salvation is saying that Jesus did not do a complete job by his death and resurrection. If Jesus didn’t fully earn our salvation for us and offer it to us through grace by faith then He wasn’t the PERFECT SACRIFICE was he.

Might I suggest you go read the beginning Revelations 14:13 and see who it was talking about in that passage. The 144,000 are 12,000 from each of the 12 tribes of Israel during the last days. Put things in context before you use them to justify what you have been told.

Revelation 20:12
Again, go read the chapter from the beginning. Pay attention to verse 6 (Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.)
The chapter is talking about those that resisted the Anti Christ prior to the thousand year reign of Jesus after Armageddon.


26 posted on 08/21/2010 11:31:35 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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