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To: throwabrick
Sorry, I wasn't clear. Got the phone number of a person in government who cares?

This is what set me off:

Carlos A. Martinelly Montano was being represented in deportation proceedings by Catholic Charities

in the Diocese of Arlington when he allegedly struck and killed a Benedictine sister and wounded two other Richmond-based nuns in Prince William County while driving drunk this month.

and this crap:

The Archbishop of Los Angeles Cardinal Roger Mahony has come out swinging against Arizona's illegal immigration measure calling it something the Nazis would have been proud of.

So you tell me what conclusions I'm supposed to draw...

74 posted on 08/20/2010 11:28:13 PM PDT by GunsAndBibles (God save Calif. - 'cause it's gonna take a miracle.)
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To: GunsAndBibles
Well, let me give you some background. The bishops, particularly over the past 50 years or so, haven't unilaterally taken their orders from on high in the Vatican. There is much dissent in the ranks of the bishops on a variety of issues, most importantly abortion, homosexuality, contraception, and something as fundamental as Catholic worship. The Catholic Church clearly has teachings on this, but the bishops are either out to lunch on spreading that good news by teaching or they're undermining it. They thumb their noses at the pope, and its made worse by the fact that the Vatican bureaucracy, which deals with such matters in the name of the pope, isn't willing to take disciplinary actions.

Then you get to less fundamental issues such as the death penalty and illegal immigration, where there is room for debate. In the 1st world countries in particular, the bishops and priests have been influenced by liberation theology or just plain socialism/Marxism, and they, like all leftists, place their ideology above their religion, and so their actions on these issues, just in the case of the more fundamental issues, are influenced by their ideology.

It's going to take some strong leadership and some divine intervention to clean up this mess.

75 posted on 08/20/2010 11:37:20 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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