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To: armydoc
I am not a sedevacantes.

It's hard to know what JPII and B16 believe, as they never come out and say it clearly.

Look, IF "nobody can be saved, no matter how much he has given away in alms and even if he has shed blood in the name of Christ", does not mean what it says (and all the DOGMATIC definitions say the same thing), then, NOTHING is what it says. AND, our whole religion is built on sand. If that clear definition does not mean what it says, then how can we judge what JPII & B16 have unclearly said or not said? Who knows what they believe? I don't bother with analyzing them, we had the truth handed to us long ago.

291 posted on 08/20/2010 8:37:00 AM PDT by verdugo
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To: armydoc
I am not a sedevacantes.

It's hard to know what JPII and B16 believe, as they never come out and say it clearly.

Look, IF "nobody can be saved, no matter how much he has given away in alms and even if he has shed blood in the name of Christ", does not mean what it says (ALL the DOGMATIC definitions on EENS say "nobody" in slightly different ways), then, NOTHING is what it says. AND, our whole religion is built on sand. If that clear definition does not mean what it says, then how can we judge what JPII & B16 have unclearly said or not said? Who knows what they believe? I don't bother with analyzing them, we had the truth handed to us long ago.

292 posted on 08/20/2010 12:30:48 PM PDT by verdugo
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