All graces given by God pass through the Blessed Mother

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[armydoc]

"Some people are so foolish that they think they can go through life without the help of the Blessed Mother." "Love the Madonna and pray the rosary, for her Rosary is the weapon against the evils of the world today." "All graces given by God pass through the Blessed Mother."

[smvoice]

“For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Jesus Christ; Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.” (1 Tim. 2:5,6).

[CynicalBear]

You said: “Sorry—the Bible is NOT about Christ—it’s about God’s relationship with His creation, specifically us. Christ plays a very important role—a central role—but it’s not a biography.”

We didn’t say it was ONLY about Christ but you did say it was NOT about Christ. I hope you didn’t mean to say that the Bible says nothing about Christ. Methinks a poorly worded response?

[ShadowAce]

I hope you didn’t mean to say that the Bible says nothing about Christ. Methinks a poorly worded response?

Let's revisit my comment:

Christ plays a very important role—a central role—but it’s not a biography.”

It doesn't sound like I was claiming the Bible says nothing about Christ.

[CynicalBear]

You got me on that one. My bad. Can I hide behind everybody does it?? Didn’t think so> :-)

[Uri’el-2012]

Queen of Heaven is simply a title that follows from the belief that Jesus is God and King in the line of David. The mothers of the kings were the queens in ancient Israel.

The title of Queen of Heaven
is found in the Holy Word of G-d.

However is not of Miriam.

See Jeremiah 7:18; 44:17; 44:18; 44:19; 44

You are not going to like the answer, however.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

[Uri’el-2012]

Jeremiah 44:25

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

[servantboy777]

As an Anglican, I do not see protestants outside the body of Christ. There could be exception's based on belief systems that do not align with Holy Scripture...right?

In fact, the Holy Spirit is alive and well in these Christ honoring protestant portions of the body.

Magnificent ministries and countless lives are won, healed and renewed throughout the world for the Kingdom of God.

God would turn away those baptized in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit because it was a baptist preacher performing the sacrament of baptism?

I do not know of a conservative protestant denomination that does not hold to the trinitarian doctrine. As far as the Nicene Creed, In your opinion, what is in the Creed that protestants disagree?

Nothing that I know of. The Nicene and Apostles Creed simply state our belief in the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

The holy catholic church is the portion MEN have interpreted to mean the Catholic church rather than the church universal.

[servantboy777]

Well, it is true in many Catholic circles.

If you are not a part of the Catholic church, one is not a part of the true church.

I have heard this countless times as an Anglican.

Clearly those espousing such a thing are in error.

[Varda]

Did I say that the title wasn’t used by anyone else? I don’t think so.

I believe that Jesus is the King of Heaven, ruling at this very moment. That makes Mary, Queen of Heaven.

[Uri’el-2012]

Did I say that the title wasn’t used by anyone else? I don’t think so. I believe that Jesus is the King of Heaven, ruling at this very moment. That makes Mary, Queen of Heaven.

I pray that some day you read G-d's Holy Word: Yah'shua.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

[Varda]

Your prayer has already been fulfilled.

[ex-snook]

But I don’t want to dis Mary because it might make her Son mad at me.

[Cronos]

I see Traditional Lutherans and Anglicans as being part of the body of Christ as is any group that holds true to the tenets of the Nicene Creed.

[RachelFaith]

There is no carpet cleaner in Padre Pio's veins.

Let me take a guess... it would be sacrilegious to turn over the body for an independent evaluation.... We just take your word for it.... How convenient.

THIS is the very reason why Intellectuals kick our asses. There are more than enough REAL proofs in the Bible to rationally prove God's Word. But no, we get to deal with an irrational Church which makes all kinds of bogus claims while covering up the raping of little children.

No wonder Islam is growing faster and bigger than the Catholic Church. I mean if you are gonna worship a lie, it better be a BIG one.

[verdugo]

The Mother of God said, “henceforth all generations shall call me blessed” (Luke 1:48). What does that mean when no one calls her blessed but Catholics and all the ancient churches that separated from the Catholic Church?

The “bible only” individualist abhors any sign of reverence for her. How could scripture be so wrong? What does scripture mean by all generations?

ANSWER: Generations means offspring having common parentage and constituting a stage of descent (American Heritage Dictionary).

Through Christ death on the cross, all humanity henceforth was given the power to become adopted sons of God (John 1:12), adopted brothers of Christ, adopted son’s of Jesus’s mother. If Jesus is our adopted brother, Mary is our mother. The “generations” that will call her blessed are her adopted children, the adopted brothers of Christ, the adopted sons of God.

Note that John 1:12 says to them gave He power to become sons of God. It does not say He Made them sons of God. It says that to those who receive Christ, God gave them the power to become.

There is much more involved in becoming a son of God than just “receiving Christ”. Remember that the 5 foolish virgins low on oil (Mat 25:1-13), the man who buried the one talent (Mat 25:14-30), the man without the wedding garment (Mat 22:2-14), and the many, that will say Lord, Lord (Mat 7:22), all made an effort, and still were all thrown to hell.

“And if the just man shall scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?” (1Peter 4:18)

Salvation is not a simple matter. Christ said that few will find it (Mat 7:14)

[verdugo]

The Early Christians & Scripture on Mary:

DEVOTION TO OUR LADY IS NECESSARY FOR SALVATION

Even as Eve, having become disobedient, was made the cause of death both to herself and to the entire human race so also did Mary, by being obedient, become the cause of salvation both to herself and to the whole human race. And therefore, as the human race was made subject to death by a virgin, so is it saved by a virgin. St Irenaeus of Lyons (202 A.D)

THOSE DEVOTED TO OUR LADY SHALL OBTAIN SALVATION

In the multitude of the Elect she shall have praise, and among the blessed she shall be blessed. Ecclesiasticus 24.4

Her children rose up and called her blessed. Proverbs 31:28

For behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed ... who are born not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of man, A of God. St Luke 1:48, St. John 1:13

O Mary, thou art blessed among women, for thou hast brought forth life for both men and women! St. Augustine (354 – 430 A.D.)

Although in the most pure womb of Mary there was but one kernel of grain, Jesus Christ, nevertheless, her womb is called a “heap of wheat” (Cant. 7:2) because all the Elect were virtually contained in it. St. Ambrose (337 – 397 A.D.)

However great a sinner may have been, if he shows himself devout to Mary he will never perish. St Hilary of Poitiers (300-368 A.D.)

He who is devout to the Virgin Mother will certainly never be lost. St. Ignatius of Antioch (35 – 117 A.D)

0 Mother of God! If I place my confidence in thee, I shall be saved; if I am under thy protection, I have nothing to fear; for being thy client is a certainty of salvation which God grants only to those whom He intends to save. St. John Damascene (676 –749 A.D.)

THOSE WHO REFUSE TO HONOR OUR LADY WILL BE LOST

He who angers His Mother is cursed by God. Ecclesiasticus 3:18

If you would enter into Life, keep the commandments ... Honor thy father and thy mother. St Matthew 19:17,19

Behold thy Mother! St. John 19:27

There is a generation that does not bless their Mother, a generation pure in their own eyes and yet not washed from their filthiness. Proverbs 30.11-12

[mlizzy]

Let me take a guess... it would be sacrilegious to turn over the body for an independent evaluation.... But no, we get to deal with an irrational Church which makes all kinds of bogus claims while covering up the raping of little children ...

I'm sorry if a priest hurt you or someone that you know. Padre Pio is an incorrupt stigmatic saint that loved and cared about children ...

Padre Pio exhumed, body is “well preserved”.

[armydoc]

DEVOTION TO OUR LADY IS NECESSARY FOR SALVATION

THOSE DEVOTED TO OUR LADY SHALL OBTAIN SALVATION

THOSE WHO REFUSE TO HONOR OUR LADY WILL BE LOST


Are these Catholic dogma? Are they even current teachings? Do you care?

[armydoc]

This is not Catholic dogma. It’s an exaggeration of the term “mediatrix of all graces”.

So you know better than a Catholic Saint? When you get up there, be certain to correct him for his "exaggeration"!

But this merely means Mary mediates graces, but so does every saint and every Christian.

So, Mary is no different than any other Christian in terms of "mediating grace"??

[armydoc]

Who thinks themselves or their spouses worthy to have the Holy Spirit overshadow them and give birth to the Son of God? Who thinks themselves worthy to be the parent of the Son of God?

None of us should think ourselves worthy of any favorable treatment by God. That includes Mary. In her Magnificat, she speaks of her humility and the great things that God has done to her. She would be the first to say that she is unworthy. You see, all favorable action by God toward any human, whether it is being given the privilege of bearing the Son of God, being granted salvation, being indwelt with the Holy spirit, being Sanctified, being assigned works to further the Kingdom, etc. etc. are independent of our worthiness! And that is indeed fortunate, because none of us is worthy!

Here’s a bold idea...pray on it and see where the Holy Spirit leads you.

It's interesting that as I was exposed to Scripture and my prayer life deepened 20 years ago, the H.S. led me away from the Catholic Church. The more I mature as a Christian, the more clear the heresies of Catholicism become.