Posted on 08/12/2010 3:10:34 PM PDT by armydoc
"Some people are so foolish that they think they can go through life without the help of the Blessed Mother." "Love the Madonna and pray the rosary, for her Rosary is the weapon against the evils of the world today." "All graces given by God pass through the Blessed Mother."
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People don't need to go to mass every day to enjoy Christ....he is accessable in all places at all times for the asking....and if you are a Christian He abides within us...so no I wouldn't go to mass at a church to fellowship and enjoy my savior....I do that often throughout the day...or anytime...frankly it's pretty consistant...His presence is known. As for searching for the truth...Christ is the truth and He has already found me...everything else is secondary.
I'd think if lack of a body was proof, then CSI would tell you MILLIONS were assumed into heaven. LOL
It is hard for me to speculate as to why an alien would give such a message.
Those who choose to close their eyes and ears to so at their own jeopardy. IMHO
Think of the pain Padre Pio was in all the time, yet he never complained.
Jesus "was" at creation. "Before Abraham..."
Jesus rode a donkey into Jerusalem. Is the donkey a "co-redeemer" like Mary?
Should I start looking for images of a donkey on my grilled cheese sandwiches? Perhaps we should found a mission, "Our Donkey of Guadalupe."
Moses AND Elijah are very special cases for Gods work on earth and both are resurrected in the flesh. They are the two prophets in Revelation as well. But, this is an inference not a definitive. God COULD use two others and just have it that their description and powers match by coincidence. Of course, I don't believe in coincidences.
The inference comes from Jude 1:9
But even the archangel Michael, when he was disputing with the devil about the body of Moses, did not dare to bring a slanderous accusation against him, but said, "The Lord rebuke you!"
Obviously God took his Body to DO something with it, way back then.... and it is obvious he WAS on the Mount and it is LIKELY he is the Prophet in Revelation, so a keeping a body around sorta fits.
No such case can be made for Mary. No body passages, no other Appearances, nothing. Well, nothing in the Word of God. There are LOTS of thing about the EARTH MOTHER GODDESS in Pagan lore from which the early Church borrowed while converting the heathen that speak to most of what is made up and attributed to Mary.
But not a Word.
“I get the feeling that Luke visited her many times”
......since when does what we feel dictate reality? You are adding something which isn’t there because it feels good to “imagine” this.
Mary appears only four times in Scripture and her words are recorded in only one of the occasions Jn.2:11. She appears only twice in the public ministry of Jesus Mt.12:46-50.
When Jesus rose from the dead he didn’t appear to Mary His mother but instead to Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of James and Joseph......... Mary is another member of the church, she is not put in a special place above any.( Acts 1:14; I Corinthians 12:13, 27)
...... She was not made an apostle and she stayed in the upper room with the rest of the disciples to receive the Holy Spirit......
The Bible does not teach Mary is our mother,...... For this Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia, and corresponds to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.....
.....but the Jerusalem above is free,........ which is the mother of us all.......... Gal. 4:24-27”
Even...***GASP***...Jimmy Hoffa?
Somebody call the Teamsters! They need to found "Our Precious Jimmy of the Motor City!"
armydoc,
I do not believe Mary mediates all graces. I do not believe Jesus cannot refuse her request. There are plenty of things Jesus could say no to. She isn’t some kind of manipulator.
Apparently, you and I do not agree.
Best,
ampu
ROTFCMAO !!
If it wasn’t so sadly serious to these misled people, I would laugh with ya.
Moving on, then, is there a particular passage in Scripture that says that Mary died?
You put enough carpet cleaner in any body and it won’t decay for 100 years either.
Incoruptable.
HOCUS POCUS!
Yeah, the same one that says my Grandmother died. And the George Washington died. And that guy on the news in the motorcycle crash. And of course countless others in and NOT in the Bible.
You can't say "If the bible didn't say it, it didn't happen", because the bible doesn't say a LOT.
You want to make up something, you have to site YOUR source. And of course I know the pagan source for the Earth Mother worship. I know when it entered the Church and what it has done to the body and WHY the other corruptions have been sprung from it.
Your question is not germane. You cannot prove a negative, YOU have the burden to meet and it cannot be met. The end.
We are told, even by fellow FReepers, to not accept the words of Catholic Archbishops and Cardinals who say that possessing nuclear weapons or using them is “a sin”. However, we are to believe the words of someone who supposedly appeared to have bloody hands, akin to what Christ likely had? How is any Catholic, let alone others, to know WHO or WHAT to believe when we hear this sort of tripe from you and others?
What we were told on the nuclear weapon thread was that only words straight from the Vatican were legitimate—all else is opinion. So your words and those of “Padre” are merely hearsay and opinion to us and your own fellow Catholics on the matter of Mary until all hear otherwise. Right?
There have been a lot of people die in the history of this world. Why we are to believe some stigmataed guy’s words over that of what the Bible - even the Catholic’s own Bible - says, is beyond logic.
Not even the Catholic church thinks their “traditions” ought to be considered “Canon”, so this tells me that someone at the Vatican at least has enough sense about them to limit this crud about Mary and the “reverence of the Saints” and such somewhere short of Hell.
May God see that and go lighter on them.
I just love this part. Every time you post it. It sounds so...well...innocent...
Just imagine this: "I ask a statue of a Golden Calf to pray for me. You’ve asked someone to pray for you, haven’t you? So what’s so terrible about that?"
However, the Bible does tell us that there is a time for war and a time for peace.
Eccliastes
I'm not saying, "if the Bible didn't say it, it didn't happen," although that appears to be the position of those who assert that Mary could not have been assumed into heaven.
The fact is, Scripture tells us that Moses died. Scripture does not tell us that Mary did. No position that you take will change that.
The thread on the Nagasaki bombing, and of the “sin” of possessing nuclear weapons, here and among the comments:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2567523/posts
See my comment in post #145.
All the various saints strike me as a copy of Pagan Rome's pantheon of lesser gods. I recall, a few years ago, the canonization of a patron saint of the internet.
Even if they worship The God, their worship is diluted among a plethora of false objects of worship.
There's a witty line by Mel Brooks in his History of the World movie concerning Rome's many gods. I'd post it but I'd probably get banned.
Then why do Catholics “assume” Mary was “assumed”?
It is best to leave it silent, as the Bible did.
Of course, that means a major leg of Catholic dogma is lost, but I don’t care.
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