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To: kosta50; betty boop
Nevertheless they all signed it and therefore gave their consent to the wording, which has no Christ, no triune God or even the word God in it. It's a deist document. It's not a Christian document. Period.

Nevertheless all those who gave their consent to the wording understood the capitalized Creator to mean the Judeo-Christian God. It is not a Deist document. It is a document expressing the Christian philosophies of the Founding Fathers. Period.

50 posted on 07/25/2010 8:42:41 PM PDT by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: YHAOS

Anyone who thinks that Jefferson was a Christian is a fool who probably thinks that Tim LaHay is a prophet.


51 posted on 07/25/2010 8:46:43 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: YHAOS

It’s always interesting to encounter elements who seek to revise the nature of our founding documents and the Founders themselves. It’s not just those openly hostile to Christianity who do it, however. Some Christians seek to belittle our founding due to the Protestant nature of that founding on the one hand, and yet spuriously seek to claim credit for influencing those Founders on the other.

It’s a trend I’ve noted for over a year, and a very disturbing one. Even some putative conservatives on Free Republic have fallen prey. You’ll see it most prominently on display in the Religion Forum, and you’ve even seen the usual opening sortie on this thread.


52 posted on 07/25/2010 8:49:56 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: YHAOS; betty boop
Nevertheless all those who gave their consent to the wording understood the capitalized Creator to mean the Judeo-Christian God. It is not a Deist document. It is a document expressing the Christian philosophies of the Founding Fathers. Period

Empty repetition doesn't become truth. The truth is that if they wanted to make a Christian document they would have written a Christian document, by calling on God the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, instead of an anonymous and impersonal "Creator".

They knew what they were doing and the document reads exactly as they saw fit. It is written as a deist document.

Besides, capitalizing the word "Creator" means nothing. In those days they capitalized every noun (as Germans do to this day).

58 posted on 07/25/2010 9:38:33 PM PDT by kosta50 (The world is the way it is even if YOU don't understand it)
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A citation useful to your discussion:

In “On Two Wings”, Michael Novak notes: “Professor Donald Lutz counted 3,154 citations in the writings of the founders; of these, nearly 1100 references (34%) are to the bible...”


210 posted on 07/29/2010 7:07:43 AM PDT by KC Burke
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